Theos-Talk Archives (May 2008 Message tt00862)

Even a stone can teach us a lesson.
mkr

On 5/29/08, Cass Silva <silva_cass@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Teachers come in all shapes and sizes. One doesn't have to be a Maitreya to
> teach, e.g. Gandhi.
> Cass
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> Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@stofanet.dk<global-theosophy%40stofanet.dk>>
> wrote:
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> Sorry. The last sentence went bad..."I" is now changed to "He".
>
> My views are:
>
> J. Krishnamurti was no more a World Teacher and Maitreya than a great
> number of other contemporaries.
>
> Other similar lecturers was around in the 1920'ies and later. Just try Paul
> Brunton, Vivekananda, Aurobindo, Pierre Arnold Bernard (aka "Omnipotent Oom"
> or "Oom the Magnificent"), Paramahansa Yogananda, Swami Sivananda Saraswati,
> Swami Abhedananda (Kaliprasad Chandra), Idries Shah, Alexandra David-Néel,
> and several others (in other countries than those who arrogantly call
> themselves more civilized than others).
>
> Saying that J. Krishnamurti are standing tall above them all is rubbish.
> He never showed any real sign of being an Avatar and a Maitreya.
>
> M. Sufilight
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Morten Nymann Olesen
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 5:53 PM
> Subject: Re: Theos-World TS - Some more of KH's 1900 Letter
>
> My views are:
>
> J. Krishnamurti was no more a World Teacher and Maitreya than a great
> number of other contemporaries.
>
> Other similar lecturers was around in the 1920'ies and later. Just try Paul
> Brunton, Vivekananda, Aurobindo, Pierre Arnold Bernard (aka "Omnipotent Oom"
> or "Oom the Magnificent"), Paramahansa Yogananda, Swami Sivananda Saraswati,
> Swami Abhedananda (Kaliprasad Chandra), Idries Shah, Alexandra David-Néel,
> and several others (in other countries than those who arrogantly call
> themselves more civilized than others).
>
> Saying that J. Krishnamurti are standing tall above them all is rubbish.
> I never showed any real sign of being an Avatar and a Maitreya.
>
> M. Sufilight
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Cass Silva
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 12:51 AM
> Subject: Re: Theos-World TS - Some more of KH's 1900 Letter
>
> I am not a Mason. You linked the Co-Masons with Krishnamurti. I pointed out
> that if Krishnamurti was against all gurus, why would a/c to you, he or his
> followers advocate a co-mason/theosophic connection. Gobbledegook is
> speaking without thinking about it first. Whether you accept it or not,
> Krishnamurti was a world teacher, perhaps not the kind you were seeking out,
> but nevertheless he brought a new way of thinking about the Ego/Id to the
> world, only previously known by followers of Theosophy or Gurdgieff.
>
> Krishnamurti followed his own path, he had a right to choose whether or not
> he would take on Besant/Leadbeater dreams of heralding in a Maitreya.
>
> Cass
>
> Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@stofanet.dk<global-theosophy%40stofanet.dk>>
> wrote:
> My views are:
>
> So how can you be a Mason and a TS Adyar promoter of J. Krishnamurti as a
> World Teacher Maitreya?
> And beside what is actually "gobblydegook". Is he an Avatar as well?
>
> M. Sufilight
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Cass Silva
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 4:31 AM
> Subject: Re: Theos-World TS - Some more of KH's 1900 Letter
>
> You are talking gobblydegook Morten, Krishnamurti said, be your own guru,
> not get a mason 33 degree.
>
> Cass
>
> Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@stofanet.dk<global-theosophy%40stofanet.dk>>
> wrote:
>
> Yes. It is obvious that the Co-Masons want a J. Krishnamurti cult and not
> the wisdom of the true theosophical society and aim of Master KH and other
> Masters.
>
> M. Sufilight
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: mkr777@gmail.com <mkr777%40gmail.com>
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com> ; theos-l
> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 2:53 PM
> Subject: Theos-World TS - Some more of KH's 1900 Letter
>
> In the closing of 1900 letter, Master KH says:
>
> "The T.S. was meant to be the corner_stone of the future religions of
> humanity. To accomplish this object those who lead must leave aside their
> weak predilections for the forms and ceremonies of any particular creed and
> show themselves to be true Theosophists both in inner thoughts and outward
> observance. The greatest of your trials is yet to come. We watch over you
> but you must put forth all your strength."
> ===xxx===
>
> MKR: Is the reference to "forms and ceremonies" include that of Co-Masonry?
> I wonder. The Master's emphasis on being a true Theosophists both in inner
> thoughts and outward observance, is also significant. The outside world see
> what we do and hence it has an impact on how they perceive theosophy.
>
> I wish some of the theosophical leaders are participants here and respond
> to
> questions like this so that the we are all clear in our minds.
>
> Ramadoss
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