Theos-Talk Archives (May 2008 Message tt00861)

Teachers come in all shapes and sizes.  One doesn't have to be a Maitreya to teach, e.g. Gandhi.
  Cass

Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@stofanet.dk> wrote:
          
Sorry. The last sentence went bad..."I" is now changed to "He".

My views are:

J. Krishnamurti was no more a World Teacher and Maitreya than a great number of other contemporaries. 

Other similar lecturers was around in the 1920'ies and later. Just try Paul Brunton, Vivekananda, Aurobindo, Pierre Arnold Bernard (aka "Omnipotent Oom" or "Oom the Magnificent"), Paramahansa Yogananda, Swami Sivananda Saraswati, Swami Abhedananda (Kaliprasad Chandra), Idries Shah, Alexandra David-Néel, and several others (in other countries than those who arrogantly call themselves more civilized than others).

Saying that J. Krishnamurti are standing tall above them all is rubbish.
He never showed any real sign of being an Avatar and a Maitreya.

M. Sufilight

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Morten Nymann Olesen 
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World TS - Some more of KH's 1900 Letter

My views are:

J. Krishnamurti was no more a World Teacher and Maitreya than a great number of other contemporaries. 

Other similar lecturers was around in the 1920'ies and later. Just try Paul Brunton, Vivekananda, Aurobindo, Pierre Arnold Bernard (aka "Omnipotent Oom" or "Oom the Magnificent"), Paramahansa Yogananda, Swami Sivananda Saraswati, Swami Abhedananda (Kaliprasad Chandra), Idries Shah, Alexandra David-Néel, and several others (in other countries than those who arrogantly call themselves more civilized than others).

Saying that J. Krishnamurti are standing tall above them all is rubbish.
I never showed any real sign of being an Avatar and a Maitreya.

M. Sufilight

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Cass Silva 
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 12:51 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World TS - Some more of KH's 1900 Letter

I am not a Mason. You linked the Co-Masons with Krishnamurti. I pointed out that if Krishnamurti was against all gurus, why would a/c to you, he or his followers advocate a co-mason/theosophic connection. Gobbledegook is speaking without thinking about it first. Whether you accept it or not, Krishnamurti was a world teacher, perhaps not the kind you were seeking out, but nevertheless he brought a new way of thinking about the Ego/Id to the world, only previously known by followers of Theosophy or Gurdgieff. 

Krishnamurti followed his own path, he had a right to choose whether or not he would take on Besant/Leadbeater dreams of heralding in a Maitreya. 

Cass

Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@stofanet.dk> wrote:
My views are:

So how can you be a Mason and a TS Adyar promoter of J. Krishnamurti as a World Teacher Maitreya?
And beside what is actually "gobblydegook". Is he an Avatar as well?

M. Sufilight

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Cass Silva 
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 4:31 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World TS - Some more of KH's 1900 Letter

You are talking gobblydegook Morten, Krishnamurti said, be your own guru, not get a mason 33 degree.

Cass

Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@stofanet.dk> wrote:

Yes. It is obvious that the Co-Masons want a J. Krishnamurti cult and not the wisdom of the true theosophical society and aim of Master KH and other Masters.

M. Sufilight

----- Original Message ----- 
From: mkr777@gmail.com 
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com ; theos-l 
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 2:53 PM
Subject: Theos-World TS - Some more of KH's 1900 Letter

In the closing of 1900 letter, Master KH says:

"The T.S. was meant to be the corner_stone of the future religions of
humanity. To accomplish this object those who lead must leave aside their
weak predilections for the forms and ceremonies of any particular creed and
show themselves to be true Theosophists both in inner thoughts and outward
observance. The greatest of your trials is yet to come. We watch over you
but you must put forth all your strength."
===xxx===

MKR: Is the reference to "forms and ceremonies" include that of Co-Masonry?
I wonder. The Master's emphasis on being a true Theosophists both in inner
thoughts and outward observance, is also significant. The outside world see
what we do and hence it has an impact on how they perceive theosophy.

I wish some of the theosophical leaders are participants here and respond to
questions like this so that the we are all clear in our minds.

Ramadoss

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