Theos-Talk Archives (May 2008 Message tt00766)

Ineteresting topic...!

I was raised by 2 Dugpa's and later changed their
lifes forever.
I cured my mothers illnesses by birth ( she told me I
drank poison from her breasts the first 3 day's of my
life).
I showed my father the way to happiness by marrying
another woman, after 32 years of marriage.

I was raised Spartanic, had 6 brothers and 2 sisters.
I honour them in despite of all the wrongdoing's I
went through and love them deeply as if I had Mary and
Josef as parents.

A final note:
They are both still alive (78 and 82 years of age),
and I am planning to reunite the family with the help
of my brothers and sisters, since  I actually only
have good (theosophical) contact with my 6 year older
brother who was my dealiest enemy).
My socalled stepfather is 91 y.o.a. now and is still
driving his electric bike!!!
If I can manage with my families help to reunite
again, the spell of our fanily Dugpa will be broken.
The next step will be my country ( I live in the
Netherlands).
My 2cnts.


A first step has been my eldest brother ( I am the
middle one of 13 births (with 3 dead babies).



--- Morten Nymann Olesen
<global-theosophy@stofanet.dk> wrote:

> To all readers
> 
> My views are:
> 
> 
> *** HE WHO WIPETH NOT AWAY THE FILTH WITH WHICH THE
> PARENT'S BODY MAY HAVE BEEN DEFILED BY AN ENEMY,
> NEITHER LOVES THE PARENT NOR HONOURS HIMSELF. ***
> 
> I can only recommend, that all members of TS Adyar
> to read the following carefully so to understand
> chelaship - and leadership. And when they are able
> to relate this to J. Krishnamurti's teachings in a
> manner, which is not in opposition to his own
> teachings, I will be happy to learn and know about
> this. Until then I must regard J. Krishnamurti's
> teachings as an obstacle to the theosophical cause
> and therefore possibly also the TS cause.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >>> H. P. Blavatsky said the folllowing <<<
> "In 1890, in England, a second Preliminary
> Memorandum* was published, this being extracts from
> H.P.B.'s "Preliminary Explanations to No. III of the
> Instructions," plus the penultimate paragraph of
> that Instruction. The Aryan Press in New York also
> published this second Preliminary Memorandum in an
> eight-page pamphlet. Its text is as follows:
> Strictly private and confidential.
> 
> ESOTERIC SECTION
> 
> PRELIMINARY MEMORANDUM
> 
> "If thou canst not fulfil thy pledge, refuse to take
> it, but once thou hast bound thyself to any promise,
> carry it out, even if thou hast to die for it."
> 
> Membership in the E. S., and "pledges" sent,
> accepted and signed, are no warrants for a high
> success, nor do these pledges aim at making of every
> student an adept or a magician. They are simply the
> seeds in which lurks the potentiality of every
> truth, the germ of that progress which will be the
> heirloom of only the seventh perfect Race. A handful
> of such seeds was entrusted to me by the keepers of
> these truths, and it is my duty to sow them there,
> where I perceive a possibility of growth. It is the
> parable of the Sower put once more into practice,
> and a fresh lesson to be derived from its new
> application. The seeds that fall into good ground
> will bring forth fruit an hundredfold, and thus
> repay in each case the waste of those seeds which
> will have fallen by the wayside, on stony hearts and
> among the thorns of human passions. It is the duty
> of the Sower to choose the best soil for the future
> crops. But he is held responsible only so far as
> that ability is directly
> 
> ----------
> * This second Preliminary Memorandum was included in
> a further edition of the Book of Rules issued in
> late 1891 by Annie Besant and William Q. Judge as
> joint Heads of the E.S.
> ----------
> 
> 
> 
> Page 502
> 
> 
> connected with the failures, and that such are
> solely due to it; it is the Karma of the individuals
> who receive the seeds by asking for them, that will
> repay or punish those who fail in their duties to
> their HIGHER SELF.
> 
> (From the "Book of Discipline" in the schools of
> "Dzyan.")
> 
> "1. TO THE EARNEST DISCIPLE HIS TEACHER TAKES THE
> PLACE OF FATHER AND MOTHER. FOR, WHEREAS THEY GAVE
> HIM HIS BODY AND ITS FACULTIES, ITS LIFE AND CASUAL
> FORM, THE TEACHER SHOWS HIM HOW TO DEVELOP THE INNER
> FACULTIES FOR THE ACQUISITION OF THE ETERNAL WISDOM.
> "2. TO THE DISCIPLE EACH FELLOW-DISCIPLE BECOMES A
> BROTHER AND SISTER, A PORTION OF HIMSELF,* FOR HIS
> INTERESTS AND ASPIRATIONS ARE THEIRS, HIS WELFARE
> INTERWOVEN WITH THEIRS, HIS PROGRESS HELPED OR
> HINDERED BY THEIR INTELLIGENCE, MORALITY, AND
> BEHAVIOR THROUGH THE INTIMACY BROUGHT ABOUT BY THEIR
> CO-DISCIPLESHIP.
> "3. A CO-DISCIPLE OR ASSOCIATE CANNOT BACKSLIDE OR
> FALL OUT OF THE LINE WITHOUT AFFECTING THOSE WHO
> STAND FIRM THROUGH THE SYMPATHETIC TIE BETWEEN
> THEMSELVES AND THE PSYCHICAL CURRENTS BETWEEN THEM
> AND THEIR TEACHER.
> "4. WOE TO THE DESERTER, WOE ALSO TO ALL WHO HELP TO
> BRING HIS SOUL TO THE POINT WHERE DESERTION FIRST
> PRESENTS ITSELF BEFORE HIS MIND'S EYE, AS THE LESSER
> OF TWO EVILS. GOLD IN THE CRUCIBLE IS HE WHO STANDS
> THE MELTING HEAT OF TRIAL, AND LETS ONLY THE DROSS
> BE BURNT OUT OF HIS HEART; ACCURSED BY KARMIC ACTION
> WILL FIND HIMSELF HE WHO THROWS DROSS INTO THE
> MELTING-POT OF DISCIPLESHIP FOR THE DEBASEMENT OF
> HIS FELLOW-PUPIL. AS THE MEMBERS TO THE BODY, SO ARE
> THE DISCIPLES TO EACH OTHER, AND TO THE HEAD AND
> HEART WHICH TEACH AND NOURISH THEM WITH THE LIFE-
> STREAM OF TRUTH.
> "5. AS THE LIMBS DEFEND THE HEAD AND HEART OF THE
> BODY THEY BELONG TO, SO HAVE THE DISCIPLES TO DEFEND
> THE HEAD AND THE HEART OF THE BODY THEY BELONG TO
> (in this case Theosophy) FROM INJURY.
> 
> (From the Letter of a Master.)
> 
> . . . . AND IF THE LIMBS HAVE TO DEFEND THE HEAD AND
> HEART OF 
> THEIR BODY, THEN WHY NOT SO, ALSO, THE DISCIPLES
> THEIR TEACHERS AS REPRESENTING THE SCIENCE OF
> THEOSOPHY WHICH CONTAINS AND
> ----------
> * "So shalt thou be in full accord with all that
> lives; bear love to men as though they were thy
> brother-pupils, disciples of one Teacher, the sons
> of one sweet mother." (Vide Fragment III, in Voice
> of the Silence, p. 49.)
> ----------
> 
> 
> 
> Page 503
> 
> 
> INCLUDES THE 'HEAD' OF THEIR PRIVILEGE, THE 'HEART'
> OF THEIR SPIRITUAL GROWTH? SAITH THE SCRIPTURE:-
> "HE WHO WIPETH NOT AWAY THE FILTH WITH WHICH THE
> PARENT'S BODY MAY HAVE BEEN DEFILED BY AN ENEMY,
> NEITHER LOVES THE PARENT NOR HONOURS HIMSELF. HE WHO
> DEFENDETH NOT THE PERSECUTED AND THE HELPLESS, WHO
> GIVETH NOT OF HIS FOOD TO THE STARVING NOR DRAWETH
> WATER FROM HIS WELL FOR THE THIRSTY, HATH BEEN BORN
> TOO SOON IN HUMAN SHAPE.
> "BEHOLD THE TRUTH BEFORE YOU: A CLEAN LIFE, AN OPEN
> MIND, A PURE HEART, AN EAGER INTELLECT, AN UNVEILED
> SPIRITUAL PERCEPTION, A BROTHERLINESS FOR ONE'S
> CO-DISCIPLE, A READINESS TO GIVE AND RECEIVE ADVICE
> AND INSTRUCTION, A LOYAL SENSE OF DUTY TO THE
> TEACHER, A WILLING OBEDIENCE TO THE BEHESTS OF
> TRUTH, ONCE WE HAVE PLACED OUR CONFIDENCE IN, AND
> BELIEVE THAT TEACHER TO BE IN POSSESSION OF IT; A
> COURAGEOUS ENDURANCE OF PERSONAL INJUSTICE, A BRAVE
> DECLARATION OF PRINCIPLES, A VALIANT DEFENCE OF
> THOSE WHO ARE UNJUSTLY ATTACKED, AND A CONSTANT EYE
> TO THE IDEAL OF HUMAN PROGRESSION AND PERFECTION
> WHICH THE SECRET SCIENCE (Gupta-Vidyâ)
> DEPICTS--THESE ARE THE GOLDEN STAIRS UP THE STEPS OF
> WHICH THE LEARNER MAY CLIMB TO THE TEMPLE OF DIVINE
> WISDOM."
> 
> (From No. III of the Instructions.)
> 
> Good and evil are relative, and are intensified or
> lessened according to the conditions by which man is
> surrounded. One who belongs to that which we call
> the "useless portion of mankind," i.e., the lay
> majority, is in many cases irresponsible. Crimes
> committed in Avidyâ (ignorance) involve physical but
> not moral responsibilities or Karma. Take, for
> example, the case of idiots, children, savages, and
> other people who know no better. But the case of
> each of you, pledged to the HIGHER SELF, is quite
> another matter. You cannot invoke this divine
> Witness with impunity, and once that you have put
> yourselves under its tutelage, you have asked the
> Radiant Light to shine into and search through all
> the dark corners of your being; consciously you have
> invoked the divine justice of Karma to take note of
> your motives, to scrutinize your actions, and to
> enter up all in your account. The step is as
> irrevocable as that of the infant taking birth.
> Never again can you force yourself back into the
> Matrix of Avidyâ and irresponsibility. Resignation
> and return of your pledges will not help you. Though
> you flee to the uttermost parts of the earth, and
> hide yourselves from the sight of men, or seek
> oblivion in the tumult of the social whirl, that
> Light will find you out and lighten your every
> thought, word, and deed. Are any of you so foolish
> as to suppose that it is to poor, miserable H.P.B.
> you
> 
> 
> 
> Page 504
> 
> 
> are giving your pledge? All she can do is to send to
> each earnest one among you a most sincerely
> fraternal 
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