Theos-Talk Archives (May 2008 Message tt00230)

It would be a good idea to take with them someone who can act as an
interpreter. Miscommunicatin is very easy when one does not know the
language well with all its nuances. No one wants to be misinterpreted and
get into trouble.

You are right. GS should be very careful what they write or say. They can be
misinterpreted and misquoted.

mkr


On 5/6/08, Jokela Petri <jokelap@dnainternet.net> wrote:
>
>   I have also emaila and called to our present general secretary and
> former
> saying that general secretary must know that much english tha he/she can
> participate to
> GC meetings and share knoweldge with members in section he/she represents.
>
> I have seen some slow improvement, but there is still something I wish to
> be done more openly.
> But I belive this presidential election has be quite an experience and
> general secretaries must be
> more carefull what they will email or even say.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: MKR
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:11 AM
> Subject: Re: Theos-World TS Elections - Radha Burnier's Letter - Some
> Observations
>
> Noted.
>
> Internet is here to stay and is going to move the power from
> organizational
> leaders to members.
>
> Let us wait and see.
>
> Ramadoss
>
> On 5/6/08, Jokela Petri <jokelap@dnainternet.net<jokelap%40dnainternet.net>>
> wrote:
> >
> > Good points you bring out.
> > Though Didn´t bro Oliveira say that
> > someone (Richard Linneman) copied Radha´s letter
> > and spread it around the world emailing it?
> >
> > We should change our three objects:
> >
> > 1) Politic before brotherhood ( in brotherhood those are first who live
> > only in India and travels around the world when it gets hot)
> > 2) Advise people to study politics rather than wisdoms
> > 3) Try to increase powers of human being which helps us to get the
> > position of the most high in TS - no matter how - energy of the mother
> > Nature is blind - use it - abuse it - use internet!
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Govert Schuller
> > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com><theos-talk%
> 40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 10:35 AM
> > Subject: Re: Theos-World TS Elections - Radha Burnier's Letter - Some
> > Observations
> >
> > Radha's statement, per Pablo Sender, that she "had sent that letter only
> > to
> > a few people that asked her about her opinion" does not square with
> > Oliveira's statement in his timeline that the letter was addressed "to
> all
> > General Secretaries of the TS, stating her personal views about the
> > nomination process and highlighting the importance of Presidents of the
> TS
> > to reside at Adyar."
> >
> > Are we talking about the same letter here?
> >
> > March 12, 2008 letter by Radha Burnier
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theos-talk/message/43516
> >
> > Three possibilities:
> >
> > 1) The letter was private. Therefore it's unproblematic. It's her
> opinion
> > to
> > which she's entitled with her friends and she might be right.
> >
> > 2) The letter was to all General Secretaries intended as a response to
> Ms.
> > Carbonell's letter, to which Burnier was entitled as Oliveira points
> out:
> > "Mrs Radha Burnier, about
> > whom some presumptions were made in Ms Carbonell's letter to some
> General
> > Council members, of necessity, as is her right, has had to state her
> > position and her ntentions in relation to the forthcoming election for
> > international President."
> >
> > 3) The letter was to all General Secretaries expressing her position. If
> > so,
> > then it was electioneering and therefore sufficient grounds for General
> > Secretaries to respond and/or protest.
> >
> > Which is the case?
> >
> > Govert
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Noel vasco" <nenqueteba2000@yahoo.com.ar<nenqueteba2000%40yahoo.com.ar>
> <nenqueteba2000%40yahoo.com.ar>
> > >
> > To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com><theos-talk%
> 40yahoogroups.com>>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 12:30 PM
> > Subject: Re: Theos-World TS Elections - Radha Burnier's Letter - Some
> > Observations
> >
> > These is a statement of Pablo Sender On theosophy Forum...
> > Dont be liar MKR. We should not be thankful to see a letter forwarded
> > without consent.
> > "Hi all,
> >
> > Radha told me she had sent that letter only to a few people that asked
> her
> > about her opinion. But then some of them forwarded it without her
> consent.
> > She didn't want to campaign. As a result she now refuses to answer to
> any
> > question saying that she has nothing to add. Fortunatelly John was able
> to
> > manage not to enter in other's people controversy.
> > As usual, the problem is caused by those who, in their over-zealousness
> > get
> > things mixed up, because now several members with no official
> > responsibilities feel they have the right to write their opinions,
> forward
> > private letters, etc. Of course they have, but that shows me that we
> are,
> > generally speaking, not mature enough, and that the laws of the world
> > still
> > rule on us. "
> >
> > ----- Mensaje original ----
> > De: MKR <mkr777@gmail.com <mkr777%40gmail.com> <mkr777%40gmail.com>>
> > Para: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com><theos-talk%
> 40yahoogroups.com>; theos-l <
> > theos-L@yahoogroups.com <theos-L%40yahoogroups.com> <theos-L%
> 40yahoogroups.com>>;
> > THEOSOPHICAL SOCIETY <theosophist@webtv.net <theosophist%40webtv.net><theosophist%
> 40webtv.net>>
> > Enviado: martes 6 de mayo de 2008, 16:12:22
> > Asunto: Theos-World TS Elections - Radha Burnier's Letter - Some
> > Observations
> >
> > We all should be thankful for seeing Radha Burnier's letter dated March
> > 12,
> > 2008 on the Internet. We all should be grateful to Radha Burnier for
> > writing
> > the letter. Some may have not noticed its importance. It provided
> critical
> > information to members.
> >
> > It is in that letter we found out what the real plans of Algeo are.
> While
> > we
> > saw a 78 year old man's vision (most effective visions are from young
> men
> > and women in 20s and 30s; go and look at world's history) on his
> website,
> > his specific intentions/plans/ situation are covered by generalizations.
> >
> > Radha Burnier's letter states:
> >
> > "Dr. Algeo who is around 78, does not like the climate here, nor can he
> > leave the United States for more than a short time, in view of his
> wife's
> > condition. I believe that if elected he intends to work largely from
> > America
> > through e-mail and video conversations. "
> >
> > I have not seen any disputation of the above from Algeo or his
> surrogates.
> >
> > Some old-timers (who are used to keeping things unnecessarily secret)
> were
> > surprised to see the letter on the Internet. If Radha Burnier had
> intended
> > the letter to be private, it would have been marked "PRIVATE". So no one
> > should be surprised to see it on the Internet. Anything put in writing
> may
> > surface on Internet.
> >
> > All the important messages on the election can be found at the link at
> the
> > end of this msg.
> >
> > We all should be thankful to Internet and those who setup the maillists
> > and
> > the author of the link below. But for the Internet, the election would
> > have
> > been over long time ago.
> >
> > MKR
> >
> > THERE IS NO RELIGION HIGHER THAN TRUTH
> >
> > http://teozofija. info/Teozofsko_ gibanje/Election s_2008.htm
> >
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> > Yahoo! Encuentros.
> >
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