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Re: Theos-World Failure of J. Krishnamurti on the Path of Occultism

May 03, 2008 09:33 PM
by Anand
Dear Cass,
I don't think Blavatsky was a failure on the path of occultism. She
had many limitations, which she admitted. So I am not going to write
such article on Blavatsky.
Anand Gholap

--- In, Cass Silva <silva_cass@...> wrote:
> I see now you are showing your true colours Anand, if you are going
to flame Krishnamurti, then you also need to do the same with HPB as
she, according to your criteria, must have failed, as her teachings
are in variance with your gurus Besant and Leadbeater
>   Cass
>   Anand wrote: In the name of Jesus I destroy demonic influence of
J. Krishnamurti' s speeches on the world.
> > 
> > In the name of Jesus I restore faith of people in great spiritual
teaching of Annie Besant and C. W. Leadbeater.
> adelasie <adelasie@...> wrote:
>           Anand,
> With all due respect to your right to your own opinion, it is 
> important to me that another point of view be represented here. One 
> of the most salient principles by which the theosophist is taught to 
> live is non-judgementalism. No one of us has the right to judge 
> another. We do not know the other's heart. We do not know the other's 
> Karma. We may find the way by asking ourselves sincerely, "How would 
> I feel if someone said these things about me?" The answer will 
> determine, by the application of the Golden Rule, whether to refrain 
> from making the statement or not. In this case it seems quite clear. 
> You are talking about someone who is gone from this plane and cannot 
> respond to your allegations. You are talking about someone who was an 
> inspirational teacher for many. And, you are trampling on some pretty 
> tender ground, when you say, as if you or anyone could possibly know, 
> that Krishmamurti failed on the path. It would be more to the point 
> for a theosophist to show compassion for this soul who had a rather 
> difficult path to follow. However, most important here is that the 
> new student, someone who has possibly just joined this list, be able 
> to see another side of the issues you have raised, and learn one of 
> the best lessons of Theosophy, to think for him or herself.
> Adelasie
> On 3 May 2008 at 16:46, ANAND GHOLAP wrote:
> > Dear Friends,
> > 
> > Below is my article on Failure of J. Krishnamurti on the Path of
> > 
> > After some time it will be available on my web site at this address.
> > 
> >
> > 
> > -------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > On the path of occultism there are some aspirants who fail.
Virtues like truthfulness, love, kindness must be developed to very
high degree in order to succeed in occultism. If these qualities are
less, person fails on the path of occultism. J. Krishnamurti is
example of such failure. 
> > 
> > In Bible, one can read, how one spirit rebelled against God and 
> created doubt about God and His teaching in the minds of Adam and 
> Eve. J. Krishnamurti's speeches are of similar nature. According to 
> him all great teachers and their teachings corrupt minds of people. 
> J. Krishnamurti does not have any respect for even great teachers 
> like Lord Jesus Christ. Anybody who reads J. Krishnamurti's speeches 
> will notice that J. Krishnamurti did not have knowledge of what is 
> written by other spiritual teachers, what is written in religions. 
> Also one can notice that J. Krishnamurti did not have capacity to 
> investigate hidden laws of nature, he was not clairvoyant or 
> occultist. So there is no originality or original, new knowledge in 
> J. Krishnamurti's speeches. This shows that he did not have capacity 
> to study writings of other teachers, and he himself also did not have 
> capacity to find laws of nature. All philosophy of Krishnamurti is 
> based on one principle- to attack teachings of other great teachers. 
> > 
> > According to J. Krishnamurti all great teachers corrupt minds of
people, and their teaching is harmful to people. This idea of J.
Krishnamurti is ridiculously wrong. It is like saying that if a person
is not taught anything, he will be better person. What J. Krishnamurti
is saying is uneducated tribal man is better than the educated
scientist who discovers solutions to solve problems of humanity. What
Krishnamurti is saying is person who never studied any relegion or
spiritual teaching is more virtuous than person who studies religions.
This is highly misleading and damaging to humanity. Most people on
earth, at present stage of evolution are selfish and have all the
vices instinctively. And only way to keep them on the path of virtues
is to teach them importance of virtues and bad consequences of vices.
Lord Jesus Christ, Theosophy and such great teachings do exactly that.
And such teaching is absolutely necessary to make people virtuous,
loving, kind, truthful. 
> > 
> > J. Krishnamurti attacked teaching of great spiritual teachers. One
might think that demonic, evil spirit had taken his possession and
made him talk against holy teachers and their teachings. According to
Christianity people are saved by faith in Jesus Christ. And
Krishnmurti's whole philosophy is intended to destroy faith of people
in Godly things, teaching of prophets and saints. When C.W. Leadbeater
found J. Krishnamurti, he had expected that J. Krishnamurti would
become vehicle for Christ. But this experiment failed miserably. J.
Krishnamurti neither understood Theosophy, nor any other teaching.
What he could do was only destroy faith of people in all great
spiritual and religious teaching. 
> > 
> > C. W. Leadbeater was a great occultist who successfully guided
tens of thousand of people in spiritual development. He prepared great
Theosophists like C. Jinarajadasa and G. S. Arundale. C. W. Leadbeater
could not prepare Krishnamurti because of big weakenesses J.
Krishnamurti had. 
> > 
> > Krishnamurti's speeches did much damage to great organization
Theosophical Society, Adyar. This damage was done in many ways.
Members of TS lost faith in Theosophy because of J. Krishnamurti's
speeches. Some officers in TS believed Krishnamurti's speeches are
Theosophy. These officers misled many ordinary members of TS and
removed faith of members from teaching of Annie Besant and Leadbeater.
These officers misled ordinary members of TS by telling them that
Krishnamurti's speeches are Theosophy.
> > 
> > Krishnamurti also did much damage to great religions like
Christianity. Large number of people lost faith in Christianity
because of Krishnamurti's speeches against religions.
> > 
> > Krishnamurti talks about instant knowing of Truth. According to
Krishnamurti person knows Truth instantly without long preparation.
But the fact is in last 70 years also none came forward and said that
he knew Truth by following Krishnamurti's methods.
> > 
> > According to Krishnamurti following Spiritual Master or Guru is
harmful and people should not follow any Spiritual Masters. Facts
prove that Krishnamurti was wrong here also. History of thousands of
years is filled with testimonies of self-realized people about how
Spiritual Masters or Gurus helped spiritual development of disciples.
> > 
> > According to J. Krishnamurti spiritual teaching, reading books on
spirituality corrupt minds of people. Facts prove that J. Krishnamurti
is wrong. There are tens of thousands of testimonies about how Bible
and other spiritual books helped people greatly in spiritual development.
> > 
> > J. Krishnamurti failed on the path of occultism and he misled
people by removing their faith in great Spiritual Teachers and
Theosophy. What people should do now is completely ignore
Krishnamurti's speeches and continue studying good spiritual teaching
given by great Theosophists like Annie Besant and C.W. Leadbeater.
> > 
> > Readers will get references about J. Krishnamurti or Alcyone in
Theosophical literature. These references may be read in order to
understand how Krishnamurti was being prepared for higher spiritual
growth. J. Krishnamurti later failed. So what he spoke independently
should be completely ignored. His speeches are damaging to people.
> > 
> > In the name of Jesus I destroy demonic influence of J.
Krishnamurti's speeches on the world.
> > 
> > In the name of Jesus I restore faith of people in great spiritual
teaching of Annie Besant and C. W. Leadbeater.
> > 
> > Anand Gholap
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