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Re: [theos-l] Re: Tone

Apr 24, 2008 08:57 AM
by MKR

Thanks for your response.

I have posted the form letter from the TS President/National Secretary in
the USA.

Also I have posted the two certificates from doctors certifying her state of

If you do not find them here, you can find them on theos-talk archives,

As they say let the facts come out, and come out quickly and let the chips
fall where they may.

If anyone has any factual information that contradicts what I have posted, I
welcome them to post it here. All of us will be benefitted by more accurate

So far none of  those organizational leaders and their surrogates have not
presented any factual info here.

These maillists are free. Does not cost a cent or penny or paise.

Due to the potential long term harm that will be done to the TS, more facts
cannot but help. We who believe  in "There is No Religion Higher Than
Truth", need not fear truth. Let us go wherever Truth leads us. Only
accurate facts can lead us.

I welcome more responses on the above.


PS: Due the important nature of the issue on hand, I am posting my response
to theos-talk also.

On 4/24/08, kenosis_ao <> wrote:
> Sir,
> From my individual members' point of view, I see that you are making
> unfounded allegations (I certainly have not seen any 'form letter'
> from the VP, nor have I seen the letters of the 2 doctors that you
> purport, nor have I seen our President's response, nor have I seen
> anything from our Vice President in response).
> I would AGAIN ask you to further refrain from your inflamatory tone
> and let the facts now come out. Including and especially your own
> purported proofs supporting your allegations. Find a scanner and
> upload your files for us to see.
> Everything that YOU have stated is also unfounded at this time. The
> balance must be weighed fully and this will require documentation,
> not just loud proclamations.
> Show your own proofs and stop making unfounded statements.
> You say these forums are uncensored; politely I ask you to make your
> case with actual evidence. If you now censor me in this request, then
> we will have better discernment of what is really going on.
> In my experience of the 'theosophical leadership' it is most likely
> that they are busy actually doing theosophical work. The Internet is
> a large place and impossible to keep monitored for inflamatory speech.
> Forums change weekly (I have been a TS member for several years and
> work in technology and had never heard of these 2 Yahoo lists nor any
> others that you speak of for example).
> Your accusing the leadership of 'fear of forum use' is pure
> speculation and innuendo and PLEASE DESIST.
> You state in an earlier email that the VP was chosen by the President
> several times for his trusted role. I would therefore trust the
> President and the VP to respond in a timely and open manner.
> From you Sir: more Light, less Heat!
> --- In <>, MKR <mkr777@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Your comments are very welcome and timely. I hope more readers will
> post
> > their opinions. More the merrier.
> >
> > As an individual member, I feel we have been kept in the dark as to
> what
> > politiking was going on. First inkling I got about the election
> issues was
> > when I got a personal form letter from the President in the USA,
> like of
> > which I have never seen in my years of association with theosophy.
> Also
> > using the official mailing list for a personal mailing is unheard
> of.
> >
> > As they say "Truth with Triumph", let all the facts be placed
> before the
> > membership so that they are fully informed and vote their
> conscience.
> >
> > When electioneering and propaganda is made on the basis of
> incorrect and
> > perhaps false information, we have a right to question the facts.
> Truth
> > should speak for itself, without fear or favor and all other formal
> display
> > for respectfulness and other considerations should take a back
> seat. Respect
> > is earned by actions and cannot be demanded in a free world.
> >
> > As an additional issue, for years theosophical maillists have been
> active.
> > These were setup by independent individual theosophists and are not
> > controlled or censored. We should be thankful to them.
> >
> > What we have seen is that none of the organizational leaders have
> ever taken
> > advantage
> > of these lists to interact with those interested in theosophy. Also
> we
> > have not seen any of those active
> > in the organizations participate in these lists. One wonders if
> there is an
> > unwritten rule or fear that prevents
> > participation, because in the days of old when printed material is
> the only
> > way to distribute the
> > information, organizations were able to control the flow of
> information, and
> > today no one is able to
> > control what goes on in the cyberspace. This is in spite of the
> > organizations talking about technology
> > and asking for your money donations for their pet Internet projects.
> >
> > I believe, now we are facing a critical time for the TS, which if
> not
> > handled properly can lead to very
> > serious long term problems to the TS.
> >
> > M K Ramadoss
> > San Antonio Texas USA
> >
> > PS: I am also posting this msg on theos-talk. If you are not on
> that list, I
> > highly recommend it.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 4/24/08, kenosis_ao <kenosisao@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Sir,
> > >
> > > While I respect that there may or may not be items needed for
> further
> > > investigation in the upcoming Election process, I for one would
> like
> > > to hear what our President and Vice President have to say on the
> > > matters raised directly.
> > >
> > > Your own tone is not in keeping with Theosophical principles of
> > > Brotherhood and actually detracts from the case that you are
> > > presenting; your tone borders on insult and makes it look as if
> you
> > > are not asking for an impartial investigation into your
> allegations,
> > > but in fact have an agenda of your own.
> > >
> > > I am a neutral party and unaware of the truth or untruth of your
> > > allegations, but until they are addressed publically by the
> parties
> > > involved, then further allegations appears to be mere muck-raking
> and
> > > is unseemly.
> > >
> > > I would ask for you to keep your questions & tone respectful until
> > > the serious allegations you raise can be addressed by the esteemed
> > > people they are leveled against.
> > >
> > > If your allegations are later determined to be founded, then we
> will
> > > thank you for your diligence. Until that time our principles
> demand
> > > that we hear from the parties these allegations concern.
> > >
> > > Truth is the Highest Religion.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >

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