Theos-Talk Archives (April 2008 Message tt00137)

Interesting and point taken on the fruit selection
  Cass

Drpsionic@aol.com wrote:
          Apparently they write the names on their prune pits and throw them into a bowl and the one with the most pits get nominated.

Chuck the Heretic

http://www.geocities.com/c_cosimano 

-----Original Message-----
From: MKR <mkr777@gmail.com>
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 9:45 pm
Subject: Re: Theos-World TS Adyar President Election

all the old guys and gals who head various sections I suppose.

On 4/17/08, Cass Silva <silva_cass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I don't know Marie, one can't wait to take power and the other doesn't
> want to let go of the power. Neither are satisfactory candidates imo. Why
> are there only 2 candidates and who does the selection process?
>
> Cass
>
> MarieMAJ41@aol.com <MarieMAJ41%40aol.com> wrote:
>
> Cass, in the co-freemasonic lodge that John started, and in all masonic or
> co-freemasonic lodges, there are established hierarchies and degrees of
> achievement. In John's masonic world, 33rd degree is the highest
> achievement, sort of like being Pope.
>
> John has a need to be the power, to be the titular head of things. It is
> his own personal needs and insecurities that drive him and have always
> driven him.
>
> This is why he is not content to be just international vice-president, he
> must be president. Having said this however, I do not say that he could not
> carry out this highest of duties, the international presidency.He could and
> very well so. And his protege Betty Bland is doing is bidding with the
> personal letter she has sent to theosophists. For this she will receive her
> next blessing, bestowed upon her by her supreme master, John Algeo. What the
> blessing is, only she and he know. But blessings there will be. He
> personally installed Betty as president of the TS of America, even though
> we?supposedly voted for her. She is now repaying the favor and increasing
> her own measure.
>
> That is how politics works, and how it will always work. There is no
> spirituality in politics.?But politics is how things get done?on our planet,
> isn't it? As for the vote, I intend to vote for the Theosophist, Rhada
> Burnier.
>
> Marie
> ?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cass Silva <silva_cass@yahoo.com <silva_cass%40yahoo.com>>
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 8:19 pm
> Subject: Re: Theos-World TS Adyar President Election
>
> Seems pointless, what is the advantage of being a 33 degree Mason when HPB
> provided the ancient truths which HPB stated Freemasonry had lost? Thanks
> for your response
>
> Cass
>
> MarieMAJ41@aol.com <MarieMAJ41%40aol.com> wrote:
> Cass, John Algeo broke away from LeDroit Humaine and started his own
> masonic lodge. It was the only way that he could get the 33rd degree [that
> is my own opinion]. This is the reason for the masonic emphasis. Many people
> at the USA headquarters are members of this? masonic lodge. In fact, it is
> an international masonic lodge, with members from around the theosophical
> world, including India.
>
> Marie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cass Silva <silva_cass@yahoo.com <silva_cass%40yahoo.com>>
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:42 am
> Subject: Re: Theos-World TS Adyar President Election
>
> Still can't find Rhada's letter. Interesting that the Freemasonry badge is
> part of JA's site.
> Cass
>
> Jokela Petri <jokelap@dnainternet.net <jokelap%40dnainternet.net>> wrote:
> We have traditional proverb which says:
> stupidity tighten ups in groups.
>
> Here is he new link. Seems that there was one dot too much in between.
> http://www.jalgeo.com
>
> pj
>
> Cass Silva kirjoitti:
> >
> > The link didn't work Jokela, however, this 'power struggle' undermines
> > the three principles of theosophy and says more about the
> > 'personalities' of the candidates than they can imagine. The TS should
> > be run by a committee, a round table, although I am starting to think
> > that 10 theosophists in the same room would result in anarchy.
> >
> > Cass
> >
> >
> >
> > Jokela Petri <jokelap@dnainternet.net <jokelap%40dnainternet.net>
> > <mailto:jokelap%40dnainternet.net <jokelap%2540dnainternet.net>>> wrote:
> > Dear fellow Theosophist,
> >
> > I feel compelled to break the long standing prohibition against writing
> > political letters during an election. Since Radha Burnier herself has
> > now broken that tradition by sending out the letter given below to a
> > number of our ranks, I do not have any qualms in feeling justified to
> > respond to her blatant electioneering.
> >
> > I have always held Radha in great esteem and still honor her for her
> > tireless and capable work for the Society. However, I have seen with my
> > own eyes that her marvellous abilities are compromised to such an extent
> > that I consider her not to be the best choice for the president and
> > chief administrator of our organization. Her memory and clarity are
> > inconsistent, sometimes right on, and sometimes far afield---as is the
> > case for all of us
> > when aging, especially by stroke, takes its toll. Because she has been
> > such a wonderfully iron willed woman, she now apparently is mis-
> > applying that iron will by trying to cling to an administrative roll
> > that in my opinion is no longer best for the Society or best for her.
> >
> > I can see Radha maintaining a roll of leadership in the spiritual or
> > inner side of things as a wise counsellor, functioning well without
> > undue stress, but I view her continuation as the chief administrative
> > officer for the Theosophical Society as counter productive. We need
> > sharp clarity, consistency, and creative flexibility as we all work
> > together to keep Theosophy alive and vital in the 21st century. We need
> > strong leadership such as John Algeo could provide.
> >
> > As to her letter below, I will let it speak for itself, but I do have to
> > say that I think the reference to age is ironic. Furthermore, it is
> > presumptuous to indicate that John does not also have the capacity to
> > bring in younger workers. And it is presumptuous to define his motives
> > or to ascribe to him the intent to diminish the importance of Adyar as
> > our international center, an action he has clearly stated he is against.
> > If elected, John may not be able to spend all his time at Adyar, but I
> > have experienced him as an able administrator and delegator, and feel
> > assured that Adyar would flourish under his leadership.
> >
> > John has set up a web site http://www.jalgeo..com/
> > <http://www.jalgeo..com/> that you might want
> > to see in order to help you decide for yourself.
> > The upcoming election of international president of the Theosophical
> > Society for the next 7 years is a critical one. Please consider
> carefully.
> > With sincerity and all best wishes,
> >
> > Betty Bland, President
> > The Theosophical Society in America
> >
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