Theos-Talk Archives (April 2008 Message tt00123)

The situation in TS is far more complicated. When you have an organization
with property and power, along with it comes built-in problems. Even with
all of us subscribing to Brotherhood in theory, we are all not perfect and
we have our own limitations of preferences and prejudices etc. I have seen
it first hand even though many of these things are very subtle indeed.

mkr

On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 3:06 AM, Anton Rozman <anton_rozman@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>   The problem is that democracy demands participation of each
> individual - self-governed, well-informed, courageous and active
> individual. There are too many who are, for various reasons, willing
> to transmit their power to the authority. The change of actual
> situation depends on that how many will accept their unique role in
> the fate of humanity. And this is the ground where theosophy and
> democracy meet.
>
> Anton
>
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>, MKR
> <mkr777@...> wrote:
> >
> > Theosophy is something personal and integral to everyone of us
> exposed to
> > us. What we do with it or not is up to us. No one forces us to act
> unless we
> > decide to do so.
> >
> > As for the organization, apart from all the rules, there are many
> things
> > that rules cannot address and what creates issues is the money and
> property
> > and the power over management and dispensation of the money and
> provide
> > livelihood and the ability of doling out favors by way of giving a
> platform
> > to write and speak, so long as you toe the official line. When the
> > organization and the philosophy are combined, it produces a strange
> product
> > which can be such that at times the actions are not conducive to the
> > dissemination of philosophy.
> >
> > This seems to be one of the drawbacks which has stunted the growth
> of the
> > membership. With all the loud talk about the achievements, the
> membership
> > had negative growth in terms of the percentage of the world
> population and
> > no one rarely talks about it.
> >
> > It is the individual members who, by their daily personal
> > actions, contribute to the dissemination of theosophy rather than
> the
> > organization and we all need to find ways to encourage everyone to
> find
> > newer ways to do it.
> >
> > One such example is this e-mail llist which we all enjoy because of
> > the effort and interest of one individual. The TSA during the Algeo
> > leadership was not able to develop an active email list due to it
> being a
> > (censored) moderated one, which simply shows that where
> organizations fail,
> > individual efforts do succeed.
> >
> > So many of us like me do look to individual efforts in making
> theosophy
> > accessible to world at large.
> >
> > mkr
> >
> >
> > On 4/16/08, Anton Rozman <anton_rozman@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Maybe the relation between Theosophy and the Theosophical
> Society can
> > > be seen as the relation between Life and Form. And the Form - the
> > > Theosophical Society is clearly defined by its Rules and
> Regulations
> > > and Proceedings which have to be respected to assure that voice of
> > > each individual member is heard, that the freedom of the Society
> and
> > > freedom of thought is present and that the Theosophy can possibly
> > > pour itself through it. The Form isn't perfect but it is the best
> and
> > > the only one we have now at this given moment. It can really
> function
> > > only when the rules of the game are respected. It is like in chess
> > > where moves of pieces are strictly determined. If you want to move
> > > the pieces arbitrarily you can possibly force the co-player to
> accept
> > > your way of playing the game but you are not playing chess
> anymore.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Anton
> > >
> > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com><theos-talk%
> 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > "adelasie" <adelasie@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Isn't Theosophy based primarily on Centralization, one Life, the
> > > > Unity of all life? Isn't it based on compassion and forgiveness
> and
> > > > acceptance and non-judgementalism? Isn't it based on cooperation
> > > and
> > > > altruism? Doesn't theosophy say that democracy is not the best
> form
> > > > of government, but just a karmic necessity of this cycle? That
> the
> > > > ideal form of government is one leader fully supported, the
> wisest
> > > > and kindest and best that can be found?
> > > >
> > > > I know! How about you, Chuck!! We would all be kept in stitches
> > > > ROFLOAO and nobody would have time to snipe at each other...a
> true
> > > > utopia....
> > > >
> > > > Adelasie
> > > >
> > > > On 16 Apr 2008 at 11:46, Drpsionic@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I missed that one, perhaps just as well.? There is nothing
> > > democratic about Theosophy, either in theory or organization.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Chuck the Heretic
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.geocities.com/c_cosimano
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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> >
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