Theos-Talk Archives (March 2008 Message tt00097)

Venus  is esoteric and it is working with the signs of the Zodiak 
sometimes in the 4 ray.But on its own it is working on the fifth, the 
ray of knowledge and Science.
Here you can find some reasons why Venus(esoteric) is working with 
Mercurius(exoteric) together in Gemini in the 4 th ray and the 5 th. 
To be read in Esoteric Astrology AAB.page 354, which book I have.
Christina












In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "fsgonzales1" <fredericosg@...> wrote:
>
> Christina,
> 
>  Would not Venus stand for the 3rd or 4th Rays?
>  I really do not see Venus standing for 5th Ray, although Mars 
stands
>  for the 6th Ray in my view as well.
>  The 6th Ray is very mistreated. Were it not for its idealism, the
> planet would have collapsed. But it is a quite dynamic energy with
> propensity to struggle. 6th Ray line is supposed to enlighten in a 
way
> that devotion and love are predominant. Devotion itself is 
expressive
> of the 6th Ray so we can see how powerful this ray energy is. It is
> very dynamic and not very peaceful.I have the feeling that I am a 
3rd
> or 6th Ray Soul. I am definately not 2nd Ray, though I have had more
> contact with this Ray´s energy of balanced Wisdom and Love than with
> all others. I have worked with a group quite discrete and we used to
> do some works we had a member who would channel some things and 
energy
> of some higher beings for the group. It was interesting. I never
> thought that such a thing as the Violet Flame was really so powerful
> and soft energy. 7th Ray is very different from 6th, in this aspect.
>  BTW, I have read AAB´s books. At least the ones about the Rays when
> they were still available for free online reading. Now I plan to 
buy a
> new book on the 7 Rays which condenses info from the AAB books and
> also other sources.
>   In the Path the siddhi are inevitable for a number of reasons we 
are
> told in theos literature. So it is better to know well the theory 
when
> the practice time comes because we are told it is not an easy step, 
in
> 'the voice of the silence' we are told, 
>        
> "The name of Hall the second is the Hall of Learning.* In it thy 
Soul
> will find the blossoms of life, but under every flower a serpent 
coiled."
> 
>   There may be joy in the Astral World, and goodness. But in every
> siddhi, in every flower one may puck from the garden, with it comes
> along a coiled naja serpent, what has also been called by those who
> know, 'the gift and the curse'. There is nothing without a
> compensation and the hall of learning is said to be the most 
elusive,
> yet interesting realm.
> 
>   Love,
>   Fred
> 
> 
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "christinaleestemaker"
> <christinaleestemaker@> wrote:
> >
> >  yes  and Mars is standing for the sixth ray, which is stanidng 
for 
> > idealism, devotion and struggle and mostly works on damaging 
> > fatalism.beattle,stuggle and war and evolution.
> > 
> > While venus stands for the 5 th ray , Manas, from intellect to 
> > intuition.That is why woman have better intuition and man more 
ratio.
> > Only the ones have balanced (or harmony and equilibrium) in their 
> > male/female structure can enjoy the intuition or buddhic state.
> > Christina
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Cass Silva <silva_cass@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Women are from Venus - Men from Mars.  You are quite right 
Christina
> > >   Cass
> > > 
> > > christinaleestemaker <christinaleestemaker@> wrote:
> > >           Hi,
> > > I think Cass made a joke to Frank his ratio
> > > Buddhi is not female, but electromagnetic.
> > > christina
> > > 
> > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Martin <Mvandertak@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Well, yes if you see Buddhi the receptor of the Atmic
> > > > plane.
> > > > However all shells around the Atmic are receptive to
> > > > the parts higher, so all are female then?
> > > > The mind receives the light of Buddhi and the
> > > > impressions of Kama, so the mind is a double female?
> > > > To me a female is just like a male, they'r both human
> > > > and the difference they make is only physical,
> > > > mayavic.
> > > > With the sexual revolution it became clear there is no
> > > > difference, we are all human, no matter what favorite
> > > > (sexual)appetite.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- Cass Silva <silva_cass@> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Good point Martin, Buddhi is female energy!
> > > > > Cass
> > > > > 
> > > > > Martin <Mvandertak@> wrote:
> > > > > Dear Frank,
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- Frank Reitemeyer <dzyan@> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > As soon as ordinary women become enlightened women
> > > > > > and men become
> > > > > > enlightened men the Theosophical Movement will be
> > > > > on
> > > > > > the save side and the
> > > > > > Masters have reason to give more information.
> > > > > > Since then this information is only "to the few"
> > > > > (I
> > > > > > am not included, too).
> > > > > 
> > > > > You ARE included, since you use your intuition AND
> > > > > the
> > > > > facts. Everybody who uses his intuition for the
> > > > > right
> > > > > cause is on the level where Masters work.
> > > > > Intuition is a wonderfull thing, it makes you listen
> > > > > to yourself many times to what your own mouth sais.
> > > > > I
> > > > > have that experience and most of the things I learn
> > > > > come from my own mouth :-)
> > > > > 
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