Theos-Talk Archives (February 2008 Message tt00207)

Oops, that sounds not very theosophical...I never hope
to develop occult powers-they come to the ones who are
ready-, I do hope however my lower self doesn't stand
too much in the way when I try to explain about
brotherhood to others...


--- Cass Silva <silva_cass@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Compared to HPB or her Adepts, I am only a wink away
> from HPB's baboon.  But I live in hope that one day
> I will master not only my lower self but also
> develop occult powers that will prove to me that I
> am immortal, so my agenda is not all that humble.
>    
>   Cass
> 
> Martin <Mvandertak@yahoo.com> wrote:
>           Lol, Cass this is misplaced
> humbleness...the average
> human being today is not much more than an animal...
> 
> --- Cass Silva <silva_cass@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > I am. What do you consider yourself?
> > Cass
> > 
> > Morten Nymann Olesen
> <global-theosophy@stofanet.dk>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > Are you average beings?
> > 
> > I would say, that Master is not agreeing on this.
> > But, that is just my view.
> > ;-)
> > 
> > M. Sufilight
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: Cass Silva 
> > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 6:27 AM
> > Subject: Re: Fw: Theos-World Distortions and
> > diversions?
> > 
> > Not to us average beings
> > Cass
> > 
> > Morten Nymann Olesen
> <global-theosophy@stofanet.dk>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > So the Great White Lodge has no value?
> > 
> > M. Sufilight
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: MKR 
> > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 9:30 PM
> > Subject: Re: Fw: Theos-World Distortions and
> > diversions?
> > 
> > It is a free world and each can come to theri own
> > conclusion and stay with
> > it.
> > 
> > I am not a scholar; just an ordinary student. No
> > organization can lead
> > anyone for self development. All they can do is do
> > the mechanical stuff. The
> > real work, I think, the individual has to do it
> > himself/herself.
> > 
> > mkr
> > 
> > On 2/16/08, Morten Nymann Olesen
> > <global-theosophy@stofanet.dk> wrote:
> > >
> > > I feel absolutely free to disagree with you.
> > "Organisations" as a word
> > > covers a lot of content in its definition.
> Saying
> > that the great white lodge
> > > cannot help and benefit humanity, and that only
> J.
> > Krishnamurti can and will
> > > is just about the most wrong conclusion one can
> > get into ones head!
> > >
> > > Do you really think, that Master Morya, H. P.
> > Blavatsky, Damodar
> > > Mavalankar are no more?
> > > Really. How far are you prepared to go to put
> the
> > Old Lady and Master
> > > Morya down the toilet?
> > >
> > > But, of course I must be misunderstanding you,
> > because you sound like an
> > > intelligent scholar.
> > >
> > > M. Sufilight
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: MKR
> > > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 4:33 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Fw: Theos-World Distortions and
> > diversions?
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > > I have said this many times.
> > > One of the lessons that one learns from K's
> > disbandment of organizations
> > > is
> > > the need to set ourselves free to inquire as
> > organizations cannot take us
> > > to
> > > enlightenment.
> > >
> > > mkr
> > >
> > > On 2/16/08, Shel Steijl <shelley@sai.co.za
> > <shelley%40sai.co.za>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Well said, MKR.
> > > > Shel
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: MKR
> > > > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> >
>
<theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com><theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 3:15 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Theos-World Distortions and
> > diversions?
> > > >
> > > > Any open minded person need to keep certain
> > facts in mind.
> > > >
> > > > Organizations are great when it comes to
> > mechanical tasks such as
> > > > publishing
> > > > and re-publishing and arranging for meetings
> and
> > gatherings etc. Once it
> > > > goes beyond that, they cannot lead one to
> > self-discovery (which you have
> > > > to
> > > > do it yourself unfettered
> > > > by any preconceived ideas or notions). Once
> > there is an organization,
> > > > there is the bureaucracy and the need for
> group
> > conformity. Once you
> > > > are in the group for a long time, it is very
> > difficult to think
> > > > outside the box. The other complicating fact
> is
> > that many
> > > > organizations own a lot of very valuable real
> > estate
> > > > with the ownership comes other headaches and
> > problems that may interfere
> > > > with the distribution of teachings.
> Spirituality
> > and property and money
> > > do
> > > > not mix well.
> > > >
> > > > It should be recalled that during the early
> days
> > of TS, there was very
> > > > little money. Even the Adyar estate was
> > purchased by borrowing money
> > > with
> > > > the support of some active theosophists. The
> > lack of money helped the
> > > > founders to concentrate on spreading theosophy
> > than having to worry
> > > about
> > > > managing money.
> > > >
> > > > Looking at some of the past litigation that
> > organizations have got
> > > > themselves into, you will find that property
> and
> > money are at their root
> > > > and
> > > > in all these litigations, it was the attorneys
> > who came out winners.
> > > >
> > > > Organizations have their place and let us not
> > over emphasize their role
> > > in
> > > > personal development and progress and
> > spirituality.
> > > >
> > > > mkr
> > > >
> > > > On 2/16/08, nhcareyta <nhcareyta@yahoo.com.au
> >
>
<nhcareyta%40yahoo.com.au><nhcareyta%40yahoo.com.au>>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Dear mkr
> > > > >
> 
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