Theos-Talk Archives (February 2008 Message tt00063)

Try this fellow:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_C._Lilly
http://www.johnclilly.com/

 Cetacean Nation Development Outline 
The Human-Dolphin Foundation

Conceived by Dr. John Lilly

The rights of man have slowly developed over the last few centuries. The rights that each of us enjoys today in the United States have been carefully developed in our laws. Our past history teaches us that our rights evolved through certain stages, from the unconscious acceptance of a lack of rights, to the conscious awareness of the need for adequate expression of an intolerable situation or state, to the demand for the relief articulated in law, to the law and its adequate administration.

As each group of humans, through its own experience, learned to feel its lack of sharing in the benefits of laws and their administration, each developed adequate spokesmen or spokeswomen for its cause. These individuals were either inside or outside the group needing relief.

This same situation can now be seen reflected in the existence of cetaceans. Recognized as having brains which are in some ways even more biologically complex than humans, and having complex social structures, languages and socials behaviors which are also at least as complex as humans, the question remains: should cetaceans be given individual rights under human laws?

The size and complexity of the cetacean brain has been known for many years. Only recently has microscopic analysis shown that their cellular densities and connections are quite as large and complex as our own.

Throughout history, through to the present day, human beings have conducted large-scale acts of genocide upon each other. Even today, in many parts of the world, we can observe the mass slaughter of our own species. BosniaHercegovina, Somalia and Cambodia, are but a few examples of this. At the same time, a simiIar mass-annihilation of highly evolved intelligent and sentient creatures, the whales and dolphins, can also be seen throughout our world. 

The future of many species of whales and dolphins is in question. The Baiji, or Yangtze River Dolphin, the Vaquita dolphin found in the Sea of Cortez, and the North Pacific Right Whale are but a few species whose chances of being completely exterminated from our earth dunug the next two decades is almost a certainty.

To insure the survival of cetaceans, in light of the continuous onslaught by their terrestrial counterparts, human beings, it is essential that cetaceans be recognized for what they truly are: non-terrestrial intelligent lifeforms. Lifeforms which do indeed have the same inherent rights that human beings have to survive and to live in peace.

To attain this goal, it is essential that the cetaceans attain a status in human society in which they are recognized as the intelligent lifeforms that they are. It is with this goal in mind that a Cetacean Nation is now being initiated.

The purposes of a Cetacean Nation are:

1) To foster greater understandings of the minds and consciousness of whales and dolphins;

2) To develop methods and technologies to enhance interspecies communications between humans and cetaceans

3) To gain recognition from the international human community to the inherent rights that cetaceans have, which include:

  - - Freedom from mass specicide by human hands

  - Freedom to live in their aquatic world and nurture their young

  -- Freedom to echo their own thoughts on their futures



Long-Term Program

That these goals may be achieved in time to actually insure the preservation of most species of whales and dolphins, a series of endeavours should be initiated.

These endeavours would include:

1) Development of communications and understanding between cetaceans and humans- it through modern acoustic technologies, understanding of echo-location, possible holographic sound communications or through concepts such as human-dolphin mind-connections

2) Recognition of the need for Cetacean Nation representation in the human political and industrial society. This may best be done firstly by obtaining through signed statements of support from Non-Governmental Organizations the general recognition for the need for Cetacean representation in the human world.

3) Organizing of electronic databases, libraries and international forums for the advancement of communication studies between human beings and cetaceans.

4) Worldwide distribution via the mass media, electronic communications networks and through personal communications, current information on the technologies, techniques and existing and past projects whose purpose is to enhance human-cetacean understanding and communications.

The eventual goal is to have cetaceans represented as a nation within the framework of the United Nations. This goal will most likely only be fully achieved once consistent communication links with any one of the many species of whales or dolphins has been established.

Political & Legal Recognition

One possible series of steps involved with gaining recognition for Cetaceans within the United Nations would be:

Step 1) Recognition by individual human beings of the need for eventual cetacean representation at the United Nations and other global forums;

Step 2) Gaining recognition, via letters and endorsements for the Cetacean Nation from Non- Governmental Organizations and other geo-political groups;

Step 3) Gaining Non-Governmental Organization status for the Cetacean Nation-initially represented by human beings as spokespeople;

Step 4) Recognition within human governments and within international conferences and forums for the need to explore and research the possible methods of establishing consistent communications with cetaceans so that they may receive the recognition of deserved.status.

Step 5) Recognition and validation of the Cetacean Nation through the passage of resolutions at international conventions, conferences, or other similar forums.

Step 6) Recognition, via letter or other endorsements, from one or more member countries within the United Nations for such representation

Step 7) Recognition of cetacean species as a nation and separate group intelligent, sentient beings that should be afforded rights to survival and happiness in keeping with those afforded human beings in modern democratic societies.


Achievement of Goals

The possibilities of this seven step plan being achieved are significant, providing there is sufficient interest and support from we human beings who wish to accomplish these goals on behalf of our cetacean co-species.

To initiate this global endeavour, the wide-base of dolphin communications studies needs to be consolidated, compiled and libraried in such a manner so that researchers and laypeople may have access to the developments of cetaceans communications that have occurred over the past 30 years.

The Human/Dolphin Foundation library of information and materials is being consolidated, along with libraries of information garnered from others who have also engaged in cetacean communications projects and endeavours.

All manner of cetacean communication research will be compiled, libraried and analyzed. This research and information shall include:

- Scientific research papers

- Still photographic images, video, and film of cetacean activities

- Video, film and sound recordings of cetacean/human interactions via music, audio times and other acoustic mediums.

- Proven and possible usages of existing and future communication technologies

- Personal accounts and experiences of human/cetacean communications through the physical human body

- Personal accounts and experiences of human/cetacean communications through the mind

- Other cetacean communication research, observations, information and materials


Cetacean communications databank and information center

Much of the current cetacean-human communication efforts are limited in their scope, largely due to their limitations in information availability. For example, various researchers periodically publish scientific papers on their communications studies, yet these studies are seldom read by others who are conducting musical or acoustic interaction, or who are developing communications and interactions via swimming with cetaceans in their aquatic realms.

There are also people who are working towards engaging in mind-connections or other interactions with dolphins and cetaceans, who are unaware or do no know how to access information pertaining to acoustical communications which are presently being conducted or which have been conduced in the past. In short, many of the people who are working towards trying to develop new technologies, methods and strategies for human-cetacean communications are unaware of the advances and results being made by others.

Moreover, many of these researchers and investigators are also unaware of the methods of communication that have been implemented and used by Dr. John Lilly and the Human- Dolphin Foundation, and as such some of the efforts of Dr Lilly are being unnecessarily replicated by others.

In order to expedite the needed breakthroughs in human-cetacean communications, reduce duplication of efforts, as well as develop consistent communications with cetaceans, an electronic databank and information center needs to be established.

The role of this information center would be:

1) To compile, organize and library existing information from the United States, Europe, Russia, Australia, and other parts of the world where cetacean communications studies have been conducted.

2) To create an computerized database with easy-access worldwide so that those wishing to understand and access the existing human-knowledge on cetacean cornrnunications can do so with relative ease

3) To organize forums and study groups of cetacean researchers and interspecies communications enthusiasts so as to determine the best steps towards establishing consistent human-cetacean communication links



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Cass Silva 
  To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 6:00 AM
  Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Whale slaughter...please enter "blog" comment.


  I agree. The psychological terror they inflict on these souls is reprehensible. I was wondering if there were any internet groups supporting this people?

  Cass

  MKR <mkr777@gmail.com> wrote:
  While we speak of the cruelty to animals, we should also keep in mind the
  maiming, death and destruction casued in wars and sacrificing of healthy
  young men and women for the sake of "world peace", "national security",
  "democrary", "freedom", "emancipation of women" etc. Also when we look at
  people (even theosophists) who organize treatments/therapies for those
  coming back from war with mental problems, these are the same people who say
  not a word about the war itself which is the root cause of all these
  suffering. This reminds me of the comments of Ted Turner, the guy who
  started CNN said before the war -- it is the dumbest thing to do and he
  repeated it even recently.

  mkr

  On 2/9/08, adelasie <adelasie@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
  >
  > Interesting comparison, Cass,
  >
  > ...as barbaric as a savage eating the heart of a lion to transfer its
  > strength to the eater.
  >
  > The "savages" might have known more than we do about the unity of all
  > life. To pray to the animal to come so that the people might be fed,
  > or the courage might be shared, to use all the parts of the animal
  > for goods that would be made by hand, the only source of such goods,
  > to express gratitude to the animal for its sacrifice, to face the
  > animal on foot with hand made weapons, this presents quite a
  > different scenario. Now we use technology to create weapons that no
  > animal could survive. Do we use all the parts of the animal and waste
  > nothing? Do we express our gratitude to another life form for its
  > sacrifice that we may live? Do we kill an animal so that our tribe
  > can survive? Or are we motivated by profit above all?
  >
  > It seems reasonable to realize that the Japanese are not the only
  > nation engaged in some such activity. Maybe we are the "savages."
  >
  > Adelasie
  > 
  >

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