Theos-Talk Archives (October 2007 Message tt00064)

Anton,
I understand that you are not much satisfied with Prof. Laur's findings.
He should have been found more.
He has the negative proof that in the still existing Hahn family books there 
is no entry of  a Peter von Hahn or Helena von Hahn.
Further he found out that some relatives do also not exist and that 
therefore Boris de Zirkoff is no relative of Blavatsky.

To my humble self this are indeed new information. I have never read it 
before in any Blavatsky biography over the last 100 years.
Why is this information not new to you? What are your sources?

Your comment surprises me a little bit, as I have a little overlook of all 
the writings about Blavatsky.
Frank

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Anton Rozman
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World To Frank: Boris de Zirkoff -- biographical 
unreliabilities


Hi Frank,

The article you bring forward begins with promising words that Prof.
Laur . discovered some new facts .

But then we can read that . problematic is the lack of, or even
wrong, information of her paternal heritage . information is missing
about Helena's grand-parents . no information to be found that there
exists any relationship between Axel von Hahn (and therewith with
Helena) and the two brothers . he did not find any proof that Helena
was related to these Hahn families .

So, the only new "related" facts Prof. Laur discovered are . correct
names of Feodor and Karl have been identified as Friedrich August
(Fedor Avgustovic) and Otto Karl (also: Carl August) (Avgustovic) von
Hahn . and that . no information to be found that there exists any
relationship between Axel von Hahn (and therewith with Helena) and
the two brothers Friedrich August and Otto Karl von Hahn.

Prof. Laur then assumes that . To have a career within the Russian
hierarchy the von Hahns had to downplay their Germanity, and
consequently, needed information on the ancestry of Helena's father
(Peter von Hahn, 1798-1873) had been lost .

and further assumes that present data were achieved with
. "clairvoyant experiences" (of Peter von Hahn together with his
daughter Helena).

and concludes that . it is to be regretted that 115 years after the
death of Helena Blavatsky no more information about her German
ancestors is available.

So, I can only say that I wish to Prof. Laur all the best in his
further patriotic research.

Warmest regards,
Other

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Frank Reitemeyer" <dzyan@...>
wrote:
>
> Daniel, with permission of the editors of the FOHAT magazine I post
below my review of Prof. Laur's findings.
>
> FOHAT has published it recently online at:
>
> http://www.theosophycanada.com/fohat_HPB_Geneology.html
>
>
> I have not Dara's recent email address. Please forward it to her or
please give me her email address.
>
> I would like to hear her comment - and yours (and others), too.
>
> Frank