Theos-Talk Archives (September 2007 Message tt00160)

Yes Krishnamurti says we must stop the warring within ourselves.  Easier said than done when it comes to millions of people.  How many of us have seriously challenged our own internal warfare?  Jesus said, love one another, that hasn't helped.  The Buddha said all life is suffering, well he got it right, but he should have added - for some. 
   
  It can be done, as the Tibetans were changed from a warring nation to the most spiritually inclined nation in the world, but it took over 1500 years to do it.
   
  Cass

Jayananda Hiranandani <professorjaya@yahoo.com> wrote:
          Dear Readers:

Further to my earelier response, which is below, I wish to add that works of J. Krishnamurti are very interesting in this context.

Thanks.
Jayananda H. Hiranandani

M K Ramadoss <mkr777@gmail.com> wrote:
Many of us here have read them. Are there any answers to questions that come
up in the context of current world situation?

mkr

On 9/20/07, Jayananda Hiranandani 
wrote:
>
> Dear Readers:
>
> The following books are worth reading. The titles are approximate but the
> authors are, I believe, correct. They are:
>
> 1. "Theosophy Answers Some Questions" by Geoffrey Hodson
> 2. "A Study in Karma" by Annie Besant
> 3. "How Do We Remember Our past Lives" by C. Jinarajadasa
>
> Outside the theosophical literature, the works of Ann Ree Colton and Edgar
> Cayce may be added. I have read a few by the former, and about the latter I
> have heard from other people.
>
> Thanks.
> Jayananda H. Hiranandani
>
> M K Ramadoss > wrote:
> We are exposed to the principles of Karma and Reincarnation and from time
> to
> time we think about it when we act or react in any situation we are faced
> with.
>
> The world is watching the war that is going on in the Afghanistan and
> Iraq.
> Thanks for the modern technology; we are able to see live pictures of what
> goes on in a war. In the past, we were able to read eyewitness accounts of
> the action and some still pictures. For any sensitive person who sees the
> live pictures on TV will be very much pained to see what is happening
> unless
> one is insensitive to all the horror.
>
> From a factual/statistical point of view:
>
> 1. Numerous buildings ? residences and commercial are destroyed by
> bombs and firefight.
> 2. Many young men and women have lost their lives causing a lot of
> suffering to their kith and kin and the results are going to last a very
> long time.
> 3. Many young men and women have been seriously wounded ? losing their
> limbs and disabling head injuries. Lifelong suffering will be faced by
> them.
> Again causing suffering to kith and kin.
> 4. Several million have been displaced and are refugees from their own
> countries. Most with no jobs and homeless living on government handouts.
> 5. Several thousands have been killed, maimed.
> 6. Countries infrastructure destroyed.
>
> The bottom line is ? war is causing a lot of pain and suffering to a very
> large number of people.
>
> How does one view the above from a Karmic point of view.
>
> Is all the suffering due to repayment of Karmic Debts by those who are
> facing pain & suffering?
>
> What are the Karmic consequences for those responsible for the destruction
> and pain? Or are they just acting as the agents of Lords of Karma so that
> they do not have to face any consequences?
>
> Since countries are involved, what are the national karmic consequences?
> Do
> we ? you and I going to pay for the national karma?
>
> For some of us who believe in Karma, what are our responsibilities and
> what
> we can do to minimize the pain and suffering?
>
> Etc. Etc.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Mkr
>
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