Theos-Talk Archives (September 2007 Message tt00042)

Thank you, Nigel and Daniel and Cass and others--and my sincere apologies Konstantin--because this is the point--or these were the issues I was concerned about. Because of this Group, and through this Group, I've learned such a great deal about a subject--indeed subjects--I've cared greatly enough about to make a lifetime study. I have valued every input and correction. I bought all of the books I've mentioned and read them real hard and each one spurred me on to the next. I had no guidance from anyone; I just was impelled to make them my reading matter when I had time, generally late at night. Now I have time again and I'm re-reading them and it's like it's for the first time in most cases. Is that because it was in some instances 10 or 20 years between readings and I've learned so much in the interim? or is it because I knew or understood zip at first and now I'm starting to put some things together? probably both, but the thought nags me that the more I think I know the more I know I don't, for suredly in this life. But I won't stop trying, I enjoy it too much.

Well, I don't know how I got off on that, except to say, Thank you all very much and this is my most favorite and most important Group. :)

Regarding AAB, and almost in spite of my recent questions, I'm discovering what I think are some real nuggets--which are what I think are real Theosophy and pretty advanced--and glossing over pretty much the "new group of world servers" and "the externalization of the hierarchy" which apparently I am not at the level to really "grok". FYI I just reread "A Treatise on Cosmic Fire", 1st. ed. hardbound; "From Intellect to Intuition," and I am presently reading her "Telepathy," all hardbound, and practically every page I have a "postit" in to mark it as important. 

So, like [your] discussions of Leadbeater and Besant's work, evidently one is on their own merits to separate the wheat from the chaff. What was that--the Hamsa bird?

Best,
Scribe

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: danielhcaldwell 
  To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 10:42 PM
  Subject: Theos-World Blavatsky versus Bailey on "Christ"....


  Alice Bailey's teaching on the "Christ" is what I would consider 
  a "CRUDE literalism."

  Consider the following two passages from Bailey:

  "They will prepare and work for conditions in the world in which
  Christ can move freely among men, in bodily Presence; He need not
  then remain in His present retreat in Central Asia."

  "His reappearance and His consequent work cannot be confined to one
  small locality or domain, unheard of by the great majority, as was
  the case when He was here before. The radio, the press, and the
  dissemination of news, will make His coming different to that of any
  previous Messenger; the swift modes of transportation will make Him
  available to countless millions, and by boat, rail and plane they can
  reach Him: through television, His face can be made familiar to all,
  and verily 'every eye shall see Him."

  This is the kind of literalism that I often encountered when I used
  to study such religious movements as the Worldwide Church of God
  (founded by Herbert W. Armstrong). The second passage by Bailey is
  very similar to what Garner Ted Armstrong (Herbert's son) used to say
  on his slick TV program the "World Tomorrow."

  Compare the above with H.P. Blavatsky's comments below.

  HPB's words point toward a true mystical Christianity, a universal
  religion. . . .

  "It hushes the 'Lo here! and lo there!' and declares the Christ, like
  the kingdom of heaven, to be within."

  ". . . 'the coming of Christ,' means the presence of CHRISTOS in a
  regenerated world, and not at all the actual coming in body
  of 'Christ' Jesus; . . . for Christ--the true esoteric SAVIOUR--
  is no man, but the DIVINE PRINCIPLE in every human being."

  "Whether it be Krishna, Buddha, Sosiosh, Horus or Christos, it is a
  universal PRINCIPLE....the Christians, by localizing and isolating
  this great Principle, and denying it to any other man except Jesus of
  Nazareth (or the Nazar), CARNALIZE the Christos of the Gnostics; that
  alone prevents them having any point in common with the disciples of
  the Archaic Wisdom. . . true Theosophists will never accept ...a
  Christ made Flesh. . . ."

  "So what kind of Theosophist was Bailey?" one might ask.

  For more comparisons, see:

  ". . . true Theosophists will never accept ...a Christ made
  Flesh. . . "
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theos-talk/message/10662

  Blavatsky and Bailey on the Christ: COMPARE & CONTRAST
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theos-talk/message/10619

  Daniel H. Caldwell
  BLAVATSKY ARCHIVES
  http://hpb.cc



   

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