Theos-Talk Archives (August 2007 Message tt00032)

Hi Henry...

Raja Yoga is a term that may be used in different ways. It is usually 
applied to Patanjali's Yoga system, although there are other schools 
also. HPB use this term as a synonymous of Occultism (or rather, 
occult training) under the guidance of a Master, in the theosophical 
sense of that term (that is, an Adept, or at least a Chela of them). 
She said, for example, that the instructions she gave in the Esoteric 
School were a preparation to the real Raja Yoga. Since I'm part of 
the theosophical movement, my practices are based on those teachings. 
I don't have any particular Raja Yoga Teacher. My experience is that 
we can learn and grow a lot without the necessity of a particular 
teacher. In fact, the very life is our greatest teacher, if we have 
eyes to see and ears to hear: books, relationship with co-students 
and people in general, daily situations and challenges, and an 
eagerness to live according to our principles, will be our guru. 
Because when one person is working in earnest, the situations in his 
life take an extraordinarily powerful order that indicates and gives 
the chance to develop what he need in his spiritual path (there is, 
by the way, a very beautiful writing of HPB about this). But of 
course, he has to be willing to hear the words of this guru, what 
means to face every situation without trying to escape or justifying 
himself, without choosing pleasurable things or people and rejecting 
the painful ones, etc. Then, there the true Raja Yoga Teacher may 
appear to the student, after having completed this preliminary Yoga 
by himself.
That is, at least, my understanding.


--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Henry B. Ellak**" 
<henrybellak@...> wrote:
>
> HI Pablo, I edited your below  post to highlight what I
> learned from  you.  What you said agrees with me. 
> Thank You,
> 
> By the way, who is your Raja Yoga Teacher? I assume you
> have one. 
> Raja Yoga is the path of the mind, isn't it.  
> Henry B.Ellak 
> 
> 
> 
> --- Pablo Sender  wrote: 
> > There are seven universal forces or shaktis, of which
> > kundalini 
> > is one of them. 
> 
>  In hatha yogic and tantric
> > literature 
> > they say the awakening of kundalini is the highest goal.
> > But it is 
> > not the belief in Occultism or Raja Yoga.
> 
> 
> > According to HPB there are seven tattvas related to seven
> > kinds of 
> > forces and centres in the body. She says that the hatha
> > yogi works on 
> > the four lower, trying to go up to the higher, while the
> > Raja Yogi 
> > does the opposite: first work on the higher and then goes
> > to the 
> > lower. As I understand it, HPB said that you cannot
> > really go from 
> > the lower energies to the highest, because the means to
> > awaken the 
> > lower will damage the pineal gland, the organ of
> > spiritual 
> > perception, and could even severe the connection between
> > higher self 
> > and the personality, for that incarnation.
> 
> > But beyond all that, there is a question of common sense,
> > to me: 
> > evolution of soul is meant for its spiritual awakening,
> > which 
> > involves a growing wisdom, a sense of non-separateness, a
> > widening 
> > and deepening of perception and discrimination between
> > the real and 
> > the unreal, and so on.
> 
>  Then, what has sexual or breathing
> > exercises 
> > to do with the spiritual awakening? 
> 
> Why didn't the Buddha, the Christ, Shankaracharya,
> > etc.,  
> > teach those relatively easy techniques, instead of
> wasting 
> > their time 
> > teaching all that stuff of morality and meditation?
> > It is said that once the Raja Yogi has reached certain
> > spiritual 
> > development, he will awakened kundalini through
> > meditation
> > I hope it may help.
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>       
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