Theos-Talk Archives (June 2007 Message tt00020)

John,

It all depends on what you mean by consciousness.   Are you talking about 
pure perceptive awareness and willful intent that we experience when awake or 
while dreaming?   Or, do mean the sense of self as separate from all other 
beings?   Or, do you mean the opposite of unconscious, knocked out, drugged, or 
anesthetized?

If the first -- in my view, potential consciousness along with potential 
matter is a fundamental aspect of absolute or ground SPACE that is the primal base 
of all phenomenal existence.   Therefore, upon initial manifestation of the 
cosmos from the "singularity" of Absolute SPACE at the moment of the big bang 
-- which its awakened "will" initiates -- consciousness arises simultaneously 
and codependent with the initial fractally involved fields of matter as the 
universe continues to fractally involve and spherically inflate.   After full 
inflation and breaking of symmetry of the physical plane at the third fractal 
involution, the zero-point centers of consciousness become spread everywhere in 
the Planck vacuum at the zero-point energy field centers and poles of all 
fundamental particles, as well as all the atoms, molecules, cells, and organisms 
they are parts of.   Thus, consciousness is spread everywhere throughout the 
entire universe within all matter that, essentially, is nothing more than 
absolute dimensionless ground space in various modes of vibratory motion.   

This is the source of the visual and aural perceptive consciousness located 
in the exact center of our head, and the self consciousness that apparently is 
located at the center of the body aura fields in the naval chakra.   It also 
accounts for all the cellular consciousness throughout the body at the 
zero-point centers of their analogous fractally involved coenergetic fields -- which 
accounts for remotely localized touch on the skin, smell in the nose, taste on 
the tongue, pain in a stubbed toe or pin prick on a finger tip, etc.

In this view, all sentient beings have the same type of perceptive 
consciousness (awareness, will, qualia, etc.) as us humans... Although, in many cases, 
far more sensitive.   I'm also pretty sure that many animals are not only self 
conscious but can think causatively, and subconsciously calculate graphically 
and holistically from both instinctive and conditioned (learned) memory.   
Therefore, they have logical minds, although below the level of conscious 
rationality.   How else would a lion recognize its own pride, and be able to hunt 
selective prey with calculated discrimination and anticipatory tactics -- far 
better, in some cases, than a human can. (Although they can't play the same 
sneaky tricks.:-)

Warm regards,

Leon  


In a message dated 6/6/07 8:31:45 PM, compiler@wisdomworld.org writes:


> To Leon Maurer  Everyone: Where does consciousness begin in the
> universe
>  Leon, I hope that I am more or less correct in my
> understanding of all that you write about in this forum, which is that,
> in my way of saying it, the starting point for everything, that great
> unknown, so-called, that everything must rest in in order to come into
> existence throughout the cosmos, such as the scientific Big Bang, all
> other Big Bangs, and all related ideas such as the Multiverse, Absolute
> Space, and so on with all of the different ways that you, and everyone
> else here, describe the different levels, planes, fields, infinite
> universes, and so on about how it all works, is that it all rests in,
> emanates out of, begins, exists, evolves, goes back into, and so on, to
> the source of all levels of cosmic activity and action -- which you say
> is CONSCIOUSNESS. . I won't personally be repying to anyone, but I would
> like to get as many views as possible from Leon and everyone else about
> this -- meaning views on whether consciousness at every level that we
> know about, in all the kingdoms, with thinking self-consciousness being
> at the top of them all, comes from UNIVERSAL CONSCIOUSNESS that is the
> source and guidance and memory of everything, or not? -- or does
> self-consciousness evolve, little by little, out of the lowest forms in
> all the kingdoms that we know of on our planet, on other planets, in our
> galaxy, in all other galaxies, in all the invisible levels and planes
> that we know about, and in all others that we probably don't know about
> yet? . Leon, in advance, I want to most sincerely thank you, and
> everyone else who offer their views. . Compiler (John DeSantis) . 
> 
> 




**************************************
 See what's free at http://www.aol.com.


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]