Theos-Talk Archives (December 2006 Message tt00527)

Friends, 

In the posting below, "Sufilight" explains what he meant by the 
Jesuitic presence in Caldwell's website. 

I don't remember Mr. Caldwell having "time" to answer it so far, 
but I may be wrong. Perhaps Mr. Caldwell will explain himself now, 
if he is not too busy repeting old stuff about theosophical 
difficulties and misunderstandings in the first part of the 20th 
century. 

Carlos. 

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theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 

Thu, 20 Apr 2006 23:08:26 +0200 

Re: Theos-World To Sufilight: Jesuits Online? 


Hallo Carlos and all,


My views are:

There is as far as I can tell not much info about the Jesuits on the 
Caldwell website www.blavatskyarchives.com

As we know, the Jesuits are today the most dangerous group which 
the theosophists face.

It seems strange, that the Caldwell website devotes more info on 
internal debates between various theosophists disagreements and 
fractions disagreements and the like, than it does on the real 
enemies, namely the Jesuits. But maybe the dangerous enemies are 
already inside the gates of Theosophical teachings in the Caldwell 
camp.

Let me reformulate and say:

I am not just looking after quotes from wellknown theosophists on a 
theosophical website, but I am seeking that
Daniel Caldwell's website and Daniel himself take a moral stance on 
his website on the Jesuit issue.

There is way to little info on the Jesuits on Caldwells website.
Well, that is just little me, and my views and I do not even claim 
that I have a Ph. D. or a M.A.D or anything like that.


Did this help?

I will add som quotes in the below so to promote a present 
theosophical stance on the matter.
- - -



I will one more time repeat what Blavatsky said.
An excerpt:
THEOSOPHY OR JESUITISM? written by Blavatsky
"Theosophy and Jesuitism are the two opposite poles, one far above,
the other far below even that stagnant marsh. Both offer power--one 
to the spiritual, the other to the psychic and intellectual Ego in 
man. The former is "the wisdom that is from above . . . pure, 
peaceable, gentle . . . full of mercy and good fruits, without 
partiality and without hypocrisy," while the latter is "the wisdom 
that descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, DEVILISH."3 
One is the power of Light, the other that of Darkness.
. . ."
http://www.blavatsky.net/blavatsky/arts/TheosophyOrJesuitism.htm 
(Published in Lucifer 1888)


H. P. Blavatsky says:
"The words "Jesuit" and "Jesuitism" cover the whole ground. The 
Spirit of Truth has departed ages ago - if it has ever been near 
it - from the Church of Rome. "
http://www.theosophical.ca/StarAngelWorship.htm


Background on The Vatican's Secret Archives

"In 1881, thanks to the generosity of Leo XIII, scholars were 
allowed free access to the Vatican Secret Archives, thus becoming 
one of the most important historical research centres in the world."
http://asv.vatican.va/en/arch/1_past.htm


Excerpts from The Vatican's statement on The essential matrix of 
New Age thinking:
"19th century esotericism is seen by some as completely 
secularised. 
Alchemy, magic, astrology and other elements of traditional 
esotericism had been thoroughly integrated with aspects of modern 
culture, including the search for causal laws, evolutionism, 
psychology and the study of religions. 
It reached its clearest form in the ideas of Helena Blavatsky, a 
Russian medium who founded the Theosophical Society with Henry 
Olcott in New York in 1875."
...and also...
"However, it is well to be aware that the doctrine of the Christ 
spread in New Age circles is inspired by the theosophical teachings 
of Helena Blavatsky, Rudolf Steiner's anthroposophy and Alice 
Bailey's "Arcane School". 
Their contemporary followers are not only promoting their ideas 
now, but also working with New Agers to develop a completely new 
understanding of reality, a doctrine known by some observers 
as "New Age truth"."
...and also...
"A prominent component of Mrs. Blavatsky's writings was the 
emancipation of women, which involved an attack on the "male" God 
of Judaism, of Christianity and of Islam. She urged people to 
return to the mother-goddess of Hinduism and to the practice of 
feminine virtues. This continued under the guidance of Annie 
Besant, who was in the vanguard of the feminist 
movement. Wicca and "women's spirituality" carry on this struggle 
against "patriarchal" Christianity today."


http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/interelg/docume
nts/rc_pc_interelg_doc_20030203_new-age_en.html


Help us all:
I would really like, as many comments on ALL the statements this 
link in the above makes about The Theosophical Society, theosophy 
and Blavatsky.
These comments could then, by someone, later be formed into an 
answer to the Vatican and the Pope - and also a relevant newspaper 
or magazine (perhaps Der Spiegel.)

This is theosophical thinking. It is much better than internal 
nitpickings about who has written a lousy book about Theosophy or 
theosophy.

Just ask. I might be able to help you.


from
M. Sufilight with peace and love...


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "carlosaveline" 
To: "theos-talk" 
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 9:13 PM
Subject: Theos-World To Sufilight: Jesuits Online?


Dear Sufilight,

Can you explain this question of yours addressed to Daniel?

"So Daniel, What do you have to say about the Jesuits online on your
websites, - www.blavatskyarchives.com ???"

I missed something here...

Thanks a lot, Sufilight,

Carlos.


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