Theos-Talk Archives (November 2006 Message tt01305)

Re on Elementals
  
Dan writes:
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<Yes, I am fully aware of what you 
have written above.  That is certainly 
my understanding, too.  And you give 
alot of good examples in the rest of your post.
  <But in what you were writing at that 
time you mentioned that elementals were 
involved in homosexual sex and I was
just wondering what you understanding 
was of elementals in general since I 
thought elementals would also be involved 
in heterosexual sex as well.>
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          Well, I thought you must have an 
understanding of that.  My first teacher, 
Richard Rose, before I found out about 
Theosophy, said that the "bugs" involved 
in heterosexual sex were "friendly bugs."  
Indeed, they developed out of the rest 
of evolution and sex in all the animal kingdom.
  
     Homosexual elementals, however, if 
that is what they are - would seem to be 
a different thing, since they didn't develop 
out of the animal kingdom.  I've seen 
written a couple places and think it is 
probably generally correct, that there 
isn't any homosexuality in the animal 
kingdom except where the animals are in 
contact with man.  So the entities involved 
must be basically man-made, and not a 
result of a billion years of evolution.  
Also, homosexual entities - inspite of 
the unfortunate Mathew Shepard case often 
referred to - are involved with the most 
violent of all people, the prison-type 
anal expert (Ever see the movie "Shawshank 
Redemption" (?)  Homosexuals, therefore, 
are the most violent of all criminals, 
it seems to me, as the act is overtly 
sadistic. (Probably the same type that 
attacked this Shepard guy...) There's 
hetero rapists, but they do not kill as 
much. (Horror that it is.)  There are 
some Very nasty entities involved in 
the gay-sex world, since they are all 
creations of man, and not Nature proper.  
Certainly this is "dissociation from 
nature" that the Mahatma talks about 
on p. 57 of the Mahatma Letters (TUP):    
"...The real evil proceeds from human 
intelligence and its origin rests entirely 
with reasoning man who dissociates himself 
from Nature.  Humanity then alone is the 
true source of evil."
  
             - jaqua
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  <19. Jake on Elementals
    Posted by: "danielhcaldwell" danielhcaldwell@yahoo.com </ym/Compose?To=danielhcaldwell@yahoo.com&YY=85867&y5beta=yes&y5beta=yes&order=down&sort=date&pos=0> 
danielhcaldwell
    Date: Mon Nov 27, 2006 10:44 am ((PST))
  <Jake,
  <You wrote:
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<A week or two ago, Dan made some comment about
<"well, _if_ elementals are involved in that (sex)..."
<'And I thought "Jeezus! - if he doesn't even know
<that and he's trying to be an authority on ES
<groups...." Its a complete basic in occult
psychology. The Blavatsky Collected Writings Index
<probably has a thousand references to Elemental,
bhuts, pisachas, spirits, etc. Elementals and other
invisible presences are involved in Everything! Every thought
<you have is an elemental or involved with one. We
live in a sea of invisible creatures. All we are is
elementals, it only matters if they are "your own" or
not, in tune with your own basic nature, and the
design of Nature around you which has been developed
over billions of years.
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  <Yes, I am fully aware of what you have written above.  That is
<certainly my understanding, too.  And you give alot of good examples 
<in the rest of your post.
  <But in what you were writing at that time you mentioned
that elementals were involved in homosexual sex and I was
just wondering what you understanding was of elementals in general
<since I thought elementals would also be involved in heterosexual
sex as well.
  <Some students have a strange idea of elementals being all bad and I 
simply wanted to clarify your statement in light of that.
  <So I see that we have a common understanding of Blavatsky's
teaching on this subject.  That's good to know!
  <I will also say that I have never said or claimed that I was a 
authority on ES groups or an authority of anything!
  <Those are your words not mine....
  <Daniel
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