Theos-Talk Archives (November 2006 Message tt01158)

In reference to your remarks below, Carlos,
I prefer to rely on someone who knows what they
are talking about.  For example...Leslie Price.

See his testimony at:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theos-talk/message/37804

Plus my own research indicates that what Leslie Price
writes is an accurate portrayal of the situation with
the SPR.

Daniel
http://hpb.cc



--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline" 
<carlosaveline@...> wrote:
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> Daniel,
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> 
> You are pretending not to know that all SPR charges against HPB 
were but informal.  
> 
> So their withdrawal could only be informal, as they were. 
> 
> But -- why do you pretend you do not know that? It has been already 
repeated here so many times!
> 
> 
> Carlos. 
>  
> De:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
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> Para:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
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> Cópia:
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> Data:Fri, 24 Nov 2006 04:27:25 -0000
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> Assunto:Theos-World Let us suppose the SPR actually withdrew its 
charges about HPB....
> 
> > Let us suppose the SPR actually withdrew its charges about HPB.
> > 
> > What would it really signify?? What would it really mean?
> > 
> > Well, first of all, it is the Council of the SPR who would have to
> > do this "withdrawing". And the council would have to vote on it.
> > 
> > Let us suppose there are 20 people on the SPR Council.
> > 
> > Let us also suppose that the vote to withdraw the report was 11 to
> > 9. That is, 11 to withdraw the Hodgson report, 9 against doing so.
> > What would be the significance of this vote?
> > 
> > If such a vote had actually taken place, and REGARDLESS of the
> > voting outcome, I would consider the voting results MEANINGLESS.
> > 
> > Why?
> > 
> > Think about it....
> > 
> > How many of the members on the council would even KNOW ENOUGH 
about
> > the Hodgson/Blavatsky case to be IN A GOOD POSITION to judge 
whether
> > the original charges should be withdrawn or not????
> > 
> > I'm sorry but reading Vernon Harrison's article in the SPR 
Journal 
> > does not qualify one to be IN A GOOD POSITION....
> > 
> > I can tell you one thing.....I am not going to base my view about
> > Madame Blavatsky and the validity of her paranormal powers, etc. 
on
> > a vote of people who "as a group" may know less about her and the
> > original controversy than your typical Theosophist! :)
> > 
> > What if the vote had been 11 for not withdrawing the report? What
> > would one therefore make of that vote?
> > 
> > My advice to interested readers:
> > 
> > If you are at all interested in determining the validity or
> > not of the Hodgson Report, read and study it FOR YOURSELF
> > and also read and compare it with the various critiques by
> > Harrison, Carrithers, Vania, Hastings, Besant, Kingsland, etc. as
> > well as some of the material written by defenders of the Hodgson
> > Report.
> > 
> > Of course the EASIER WAY [the lazy man approach??] is to let some
> > one else do your homework and thinking for you and just accept 
that
> > the SPR [whether formally or informally] withdrew the Hodgson 
Report
> > and its charges against HPB, THEREFORE we can conclude that there 
is
> > no substance to the charges, etc. etc.
> > 
> > Is this like a priest that tells the congregation: "Don't read
> > the Bible for yourself, I'm here to tell you what it really 
means"?
> > 
> > Now personally I came to the conclusion years before Harrison's
> > report was published that Madame Blavatsky was treated unfairly in
> > Hodgson's report and that there were good reasons to discount many
> > if not all of Hodgson's claims.
> > 
> > I came to MY OWN conclusions NOT by believing the SPR supported 
the
> > charges or withdrew the charges BUT by reading AND studying the
> > OBITUARY book plus also reading the Hodgson's report, the Coulomb
> > pamphlet, the Patterson articles, the Gribble report and dozens of
> > other books and pamphlets on the subject plus my own research into
> > other primary sources.
> > 
> > Now maybe I am wrong in my own conclusions but at least they are 
my
> > own conclusions and not the conclusion made as a result of some 
SPR
> > council vote!!!
> > 
> > So Carlos Aveline and others of similar thinking, go ahead and
> > succumb to "organizational" authority, in this case, the
> > SUPPOSED "informal" withdrawing of the report by the SPR...
> > 
> > Daniel
> > http://hpb.cc
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> > Yahoo! Groups Links
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