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Re: Theos-World What Is a Gossip?

Nov 19, 2006 04:44 PM
by Cass Silva


Carlos,
How do you justify your gossiping of Leadbeater and his cronies at the same time you label others with the crime.  For you it is righting a wrong, for others it is gossiping.  Ever heard of a double-standard?  You do more to promote Leadbeaterism than anyone I have ever met in theosophy.  As you previously stated, any publicity is good publicity, but be aware that you are continually reviving Leadbeater and his followers into everyone's consciousness.

Cass

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Subject: Theos-World What Is a Gossip?









  


    
            Daniel,



You said: 



"Well, I don't know how you define 'gossip'."



Let me explain the meaning I attach to the word, which is generaly  also clear by the way I use it. 



I guess you make gossips when you repeatedly show the differences among different groups of serious HPB students, as if these differences were irreconcilable.  



You might suggest a better way of expressing this. "Personalistic commentaries on differences  of views"?  If the word "gossip"  sounds too strong to you, I can drop it.  The fact will remain, though. 



Carlos. 



De:theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com



Para:theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com



Cópia:



Data:Sun, 19 Nov 2006 01:30:07 -0000



Assunto:Theos- World "...isn't it a gossip....?"



> Concerning Hargrove's words, you apparently write:

> 

> "...isn't it a gossip....?"

> 

> Well, I don't know how you define "gossip".

> 

> I simply consider Hargrove's words as his testimony... part of the 

> historical record.

> 

> Do you consider various statements by Judge or HPB as ALSO "gossip"???

> 

> Also much of what you write about Leadbeater or quote about 

> Leadbeater could also be labelled "gossip". :)

> 

> Daniel

> http://hpb.cc

> 

> --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, "carlosaveline" 

> wrote:

> >

> > Daniel, isn't it a gossip which you have already posted here dozens 

> of times?

> > 

> > Carlos.

> > De:theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com

> > 

> > Para:theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com

> > 

> > Cópia:

> > 

> > Data:Sat, 18 Nov 2006 15:34:39 -0000

> > 

> > Assunto:Theos- World Ernest T. Hargrove's Esoteric School

> > 

> > > The following January 30, 1898 letter written by Ernest T. 

> Hargrove to

> > > Katherine Tingley signals the beginning (in one sense) of 

> Hargrove's

> > > Esoteric School. 

> > > 

> > > An excerpt reads:

> > > 

> > > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= =========

> > > Now, my dear friend, you have made an awful mess of it - that is

> > > the simple truth. You were run in as O[uter] H[ead] [of the 

> Esoteric

> > > School] as the only person in sight who was ready to hand at the

> > > time. We were all of us heartily glad to welcome you, for you 

> solved

> > > the problem which confronted us - who was to be O.H.; you were a

> > > sort of neutral centre around which we could congregate. And most 

> of

> > > us fairly yelled with delight, for you solved our difficulty and 

> we

> > > had ample proofs that some members of the Lodge were working 

> through

> > > you and that you had high and rare mediumistic and psychic gifts 

> and

> > > that you were a disciple of the Lodge. So things went swimmingly 

> for

> > > a time.

> > > 

> > > Our enthusiasm and anxiety to see all go well carried some of us

> > > too far - carried me too far to the extent of... leading me to use

> > > my personal influence with people to get them to accept you as 

> O.H.

> > > I thought it was for the good of the work, but since then I have

> > > learned better.

> > > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= =======

> > > 

> > > In other letters to Mrs. Tingley, Hargrove said:

> > > 

> > > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= =======

> > > "...by order of the Master you have ceased to be the Outer Head of

> > > the E.S.T. in the interior and true sense...."

> > > 

> > > "The Outer Head to follow you has already been appointed by the

> > > Master....."

> > > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= =======

> > > 

> > > Quoted from: http://blavatskyarc hives.com/ garr4.htm# 653

> > > 

> > > Daniel

> > > http://hpb.cc

> >

> 

> 

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