Theos-Talk Archives (November 2006 Message tt00991)

I wrote:

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And in reference to 1929 (Fraternization Movement), are you aware of
the views of the ULT or the ULT officials in this matter?
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You replied:

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Please show me any official and recent position of the ULT against the
"Fraternization Movement", if there is any. No forgeries and no 
things prior to 1960, please.
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Since you first mentioned the 1929 Fratrenization Movement and then I 
asked for more info, you then said "no things prior to 1960, please."

Strange.

How did the majority of ULT associates react to the 1929 F.M. AT THE 
TIME?  

Can we gauge how ULT writers and ULT editors viewed the de 
Purucker's "fraternizations movement" AT THE TIME.... that is in the 
official organs of the ULT? 

BELOW are three quotes showing the "party" line of the ULT in the 
1930s and even 1950s.  Now I know you will say there is no party line 
but these quotes show what was allowed to be published in ULT 
publications of the time.  There may be other quotes also relevant 
but these will suffice for now.

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The claims of Dr. de Purucker, his promises and revelations, his 
campaign for "fraternization" -- are they, or are they not concordant 
with the four numbered statements of H. P. Blavatsky given above? Is 
he, or is he not, true to his own profession of faith? With these two 
questions alone is the true Theosophist concerned, and Dr. de 
Purucker has himself abundantly supplied the answers. No more than 
Mrs. Besant's has his course been consistent, either with the 
recorded statements of H.P.B., or in itself. 

Neither in Mrs. Besant's course, nor that of Madam Tingley, nor in 
that of Dr. de Purucker, is there the assumption of direct 
responsibility for what is said and done. To put it as mildly as 
possible, it is the attempt to saddle the Masters of Wisdom, H.P.B., 
Judge, with the responsibility for their words and deeds. 

Dr. de Purucker does not submit what he utters on its merits, for 
impartial and disinterested examination, nor as the contribution of a 
student of Theosophy to his fellow-students for their inspection in 
the light of the recorded teachings of H.P.B., their own judgment of 
its possible value as such a student-contribution. 

In his campaign for "fraternization", he does not seek a hearing as 
fellow-student, but as Successor. He speaks, not as a brother-
theosophist, but in the tones of Spiritual Authority; not as man to 
man, but as Messenger. 

THEOSOPHY, Vol. 23, No. 12, October, 1935 
http://www.wisdomworld.org/additional/AFTERMATH-10-
PartSeries/ArticleNumber10of10.html
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This claim of occult successorship was to be Dr. de Purucker's theme 
throughout his tenure of office as "Leader" of the Point Loma 
Theosophical Society. Except for his effort, in 1931, on the 
anniversary of the birth of H. P. Blavatsky, to gather the members of 
the other Theosophical Societies into the "true" Society at Point 
Loma?a gesture of "fraternization" and "reunion" which could hardly 
succeed so long as Mrs. Besant at Adyar, and Dr. de Purucker at Point 
Loma, both claimed to represent the "true" Theosophical succession?
the régime of Dr. de Purucker was uneventful. 

The Theosophical Movement 1875-1950, p. 275
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The Theosophical student of this generation has to guard himself 
against two extremes: one is to limit the freedom of thought and to 
live like a frog who looks upon his pond as the world, with nothing 
outside; the other is to expand and embrace indiscriminately--in the 
name of brotherhood and fraternization--falsehood, ignorance and 
humbug.

"The Aryan Path", Dec. 17, 1935
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Of course, there have been efforts of "fraternization" since the 
1930s, 1940s and 1950s.  But that was not my question to you.

And today in 2006 I would hope that there could be "fraternization" 
among all Theosophical groups and individuals.  Nothing is wrong with 
that.  Maybe it could actually work here on Theos-Talk....

Daniel
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