Theos-Talk Archives (November 2006 Message tt00962)

Daniel,

Are you pretending to freeze the ULT and the movement in one paragraph written in 1915?

What about the oher paragraphs? What about 1918, or 1988? Or 2004?

Did not the movement change since 1915?

>From 1929 (Fraternization Movement) ?  From 1934 (post CWL and post Besant)? 

Are you trying to freeze time? 


Carlos. 




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Assunto:Theos-World ULT/DES vs. Various Theos. Societies/Esoteric Schools???

> ULT/DES versus Various Theosophical Societies/
> Esoteric Schools??? 
> 
> Once on Theos-Talk, Carlos Aveline wrote:
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> The ULT (United Lodge of Theosophists) does not suppose it is "the
> only channel", etc.
> =========================================================
> 
> But compare and contrast what Aveline stated above with the following
> quotes from Robert Crosbie, founder of the ULT and the secret
> Dzyan Esoteric School. 
> 
> Crosbie wrote these words in 1915:
> 
> "Today, after a quarter of a century, there are no less than three
> widely heralded ---and a half dozen lesser known---'outer heads,'
> [Katherine Tingley, Annie Besant, Genevieve Griscom, etc.] 'esoteric 
> sections,' 'visible agents,' and what-not, all 
> issuing 'orders,' 'instructions,' and 'teachings,' professedly
> emanating from the Masters of H.P.B. and from H.P.B. herself. . ."
> 
> ". . . The VARIOUS THEOSOPHICAL SOCIETIES and esoteric sections of
> the day are IN NO SENSE REPRESENTATIVE OF the School of the Masters
> or THE THEOSOPHICAL MOVEMENT. . . The Anciently universal Wisdom-
> Religion, the School of the Masters and the Theosophical Movement
> are in unbroken continuity of existence to-day as always. . . .
> 
> "...NOW [in 1915] as always, they have THEIR REPRESENTATIVES AND 
> AGENTS among men, who cannot be found out by any but those who have 
> earned the right to know them. . . ." caps added.
> 
> "If, then, the TRUE THEOSOPHICAL MOVEMENT, and the true Chelas of
> the School of the Masters are NOT to be found among those [persons
> such as Katherine Tingley, Annie Besant, Charles Leadbeater, Ernest
> Hargrove, etc. ??] who have lost the point of contact with the
> Masters, while yet loudly proclaiming themselves Initiates and Outer
> and Inner Heads of this, that, and the other theosophical society
> and esoteric section, WHERE MAY THEY BE DISCERNED? . . ." caps added
> 
> See other relevant quotes at:
> http://blavatskyarchives.com/crosbierobertdes.htm#critical
> 
> In these extracts, Crosbie does NOT paint a very pretty picture of
> the various Theosophical Societies, their Leaders, their Esoteric
> Schools, etc. 
> 
> Furthermore Crosbie asserts that the true Theosophical Movement and 
> the true Chelas, representatives and agents of the Masters [the TRUE
> CHANNELS???] must be sought for somewhere else.... WHERE??
> 
> This Crosbie writes only 6 years after he founded the secret Dzyan
> Esoteric School.....
> 
> And remember what Greogry Tillett stated about the DES which seems 
> quite relevant in light of Crosbie's above words. Tillett wrote:
> 
> "The DES claimed to be on 'the original lines' of the ES under HPB. It
> taught that HPB remained the Real Head of the School...."
> 
> Daniel
> http://hpb.cc
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