Theos-Talk Archives (November 2006 Message tt00846)

Friends,

Take a look at the excellent text below, by G. Tillett.  

That C. Jinarajadasa sincerely believed to have lived and died in Brazil according to Leadbeater's story, demonstrates that we have a fraud here, and not a simple "short novel". 

Jinarajadasa was, I guess, honestly deluded by CWL. 

Leadbeater also made a fraud with his date of birth,  something which Tillett and others have demonstrated. 

But -- will some Adyar people ever be able to really think about that?

In time:  in his book, Tillet shows how Leadbeater cleverly succeeded in avoiding all attempts of policemen to have a chance to question him, during police investigations on child abuse in Australia. 

Yet, denial is Adyar's policy. 

Regards,  Carlos. 



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Data:Tue, 14 Nov 2006 07:29:39 +1100 (EST)

Assunto:Theos-World Leadbeater's Brazilian Adventure

> Commentary on Leadbeater?s ?Brazilian adventure? may be interesting
> insofar as the story provides insights into his views of race, but the
> account is clearly fantasy or fraud.
> 
> Leadbeater?s story about his alleged time in Brazil is found in ?Saved by
> a Ghost. A True Story of an Adventure in Brazil, Near Bahia, 1861-2?
> published in ?The Theosophist? (1911), subsequently published as an
> off-print edited and annotated by Jinarajadasa with the title ?Saved by a
> Ghost. A True Record of Adventure in Brazil, Near Bahia, 1861-1862, of
> Charles Leadbeater (Senior), Charles Webster Leadbeater, and Gerald
> Leadbeater? (1911), and then included in a collection of Leadbeater?s
> short stories, ?The Perfume of Egypt? (1911). Presumably, if it was not ?A
> True Record?, Leadbeater had every opportunity correct it, or at least to
> prevent the second edition (1912) being published. The published account
> can be supplemented by notes left by Jinarajadasa and A.J. Hamerster in
> the TS archives at Adyar. Jinarajadasa also undertook research in Brazil
> in an attempt to confirm the details, but did not report any success.
> 
> Leadbeater claimed that he and his family were in Brazil between 1858-62:
> the story in ?Saved by a Ghost? allegedly occurs in 1861-2, biographical
> notes made by A.J. Hamerster and corrected by Leadbeater record the family
> being in Brazil from around 1858 to 1862, and a ?Memo for a Biography of
> C.W.L.? written by Jinarajadasa on the basis of information given to him
> by Leadbeater states that the family went to Brazil in 1858 and returned
> to London around 1862. However, the 1861 British Census records show
> Leadbeater and his parents in England: Charles Leadbeater (35), who
> described himself as a ?railway clerk?, his wife Emma (39) and their son,
> Charles W. (7) were lodgers in the house of a Mr Allen in Brompton,
> London. Emma is described as having been born in Liverpool and Charles W.
> in Stockport. The census return submitted by Leadbeater when he was Curate
> of Bramshott in 1881 reports that he was 34 (i.e. born in 1854) and had
> been born in Stockport, and that his mother was 59 (i.e. she would have
> been born in 1822, and would have been 39 in 1861). Unless it is claimed
> that the father, as a railway clerk, took his family to Brazil around
> 1858, and returned with them to London for the 1861 census, and then
> returned to Brazil for the ?Saved by a Ghost? adventure in 1861-62, but
> came back to London to die in 1862 (when his widow reported his death,
> describing Charles, Snr, as ?book-keeper for a railway company?), the
> story must be regarded as fantasy or fraud.
> 
> Leadbeater claimed that his father was the leading director of a railway
> company (which Leadbeater did not identify but which Jinarajadasa, from
> his research in Brazil, claimed was The State of Bahia South Western
> Railway Company). Leadbeater?s father must moved from being a ?book
> keeper? (1854 baptismal record of his son) to ?railway clerk? (1861
> census) to ?leading director? (for the adventures in Brazil) to
> ?book-keeper for a railway company? (1862 death certificate).
> 
> Leadbeater claimed that there was a rebellion under a General Martinez
> (?the best swordsman in South America?). However, no standard history of
> Brazil includes any reference to uprisings in Brazil, 1850-1889, or to any
> general, rebel or otherwise, by the name of Martinez.
> 
> Leadbeater claimed that his brother, Gerald, was murdered by the rebels.
> However, there is no record of any child other than Charles Webster being
> born to Charles and Emma Leadbeater in the period 1840-1870. None of the
> major international genealogical search engines produces any result for
> ?Gerald Leadbeater?. There is no record in the British records of deaths
> of its citizens abroad of anyone named Leadbeater. No British press
> reports have been located reporting the murder of a British child in
> Brazil, 1860-1870.
> 
> Leadbeater claimed that his father joined the army in fighting the rebels
> and that he (aged either 15 by his account or 8 according to his birth
> certificate) went with his father and the army to capture Martinez, and
> that both of them were present at the General?s execution.
> Leadbeater claimed that he and his father were awarded decorations by the
> government for their services to Brazil.
> 
> Dr Gregory Tillett
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