Theos-Talk Archives (November 2006 Message tt00349)

Carlos,
No, they have nothing to do with Point Loma. The Society was founded 
by Dr. Hartmann in 1897 in protest against KT (as O.H. of EST). It 
is in the same "group" as the Hargrove society (1898-1935). They was 
in friendly contact whit Hargrove, the whole time.

And that group that was writing to Radha is another German group.

Put them and STS, in the same group. 

Thanks,

Carl

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline" 
<carlosaveline@...> wrote:
>
> Carl,  thanks.  
> 
> I don't know more than three words in German, or four, but I guess 
I am in contact with the group you just mentioned.  
> 
> They are writing letter to Ms. Radha in defence of Mr. Judge, in 
cooperation with "FOHAT" and myself.  
> 
> They were somewhat mentioned  as "Point Loma" groups in my 
provisional 'map'.   I hope I can call them "Point Loma groups". 
> 
> 
> Carlos. 
> 
> 
> De:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
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> Para:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> 
> Cópia:
> 
> Data:Mon, 06 Nov 2006 12:28:13 -0000
> 
> Assunto:Theos-World Re: Narada TS and the Map!
> 
> > Carlos,
> > 
> > You can also put Theosophische Gesellschaft in Deutschland e.V. 
(The 
> > Theosophical Society in Germany) founded by Dr. Franz Hartmann 
in 
> > 1897 there, 
> > webpage: http://www.theosophische-
> > gesellschaft.com/html/allgemein.html
> > 
> > and Svenska Teosofiska Samfundet (The Swedish Theosophical 
Society) 
> > founded first 1889 by Dr. Gustaf Zander. 1891 united with the 
> > European Section, and declared it self independent again 1895 
> > (during the Judge Case). In 1898, when KT founded the UB, it was 
> > spitted up. The majority joined UB, but one lodge (and I few 
other 
> > members spread al over the country) continued as independent in 
till 
> > 1929, then they joined TS (under Dr. de Purucker). 1952, in 
protest 
> > again Long it started again and continued to work in till 1971, 
when 
> > most of its members joined the TS Pasadena, and 2003 it was 
> > reorganized. One can't say that was the same society, al three 
> > times, but it was the same tradition. The Society has today two 
> > lodges, Balder in Gothenburg and Isis in Stockholm and ca. 65 
> > members, but very little activity. The STS has no webpage for 
the 
> > moment, but I think there will be one soon.
> > 
> > Carl
> > 
> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline" 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Carl,
> > > 
> > > Thanks. 
> > > 
> > > Narada Theosophical Society, yes. I knew them -- yet I did not 
> > remember to put them in the "map". I will do so now. 
> > > 
> > > They are facing a law suit moved by the TS in the USA, which 
is 
> > aiming at their building and other assets and belongings. 
> > > 
> > > They have been independent for a century, though, and they 
intend 
> > to keep that way. 
> > > 
> > > There are many independent efforts like this around the world. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Carlos. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > De:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > 
> > > Para:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > 
> > > Cópia:
> > > 
> > > Data:Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:52:10 -0000
> > > 
> > > Assunto:Theos-World Carlos, a new group for your Theosophical 
Wold 
> > Map!
> > > 
> > > > Carlos,
> > > > I just fund a new group for your Theosophical Wold Map; "The 
> > Narada 
> > > > Theosophical Society". Have a look in their webpage; 
> > > > http://www.thetheosophicalsocietyinamerica.org
> > > > I say no more.
> > > > 
> > > > /Carl
> > > > 
> > > > Some quotes from their webpage:
> > > > 
> > > > "In this pursuit, Blavatsky co-founded The Theosophical 
Society 
> > in 
> > > > 1874 and wrote Isis Unveiled, her first book, in 1877 while 
> > living 
> > > > in New York."
> > > > 
> > > > "Helena Blavatsky communicated with the Mahatmas in face-to-
face 
> > > > meetings, the first at Hyde Park in London in 1851, when she 
> > began a 
> > > > 17-year probationary period. After living with her master 
> > Mahatma in 
> > > > Tibet for three years, 1868 to 1871, she traveled to Greece 
to 
> > visit 
> > > > with Mahatmas living there."
> > > > 
> > > > "A delivery system for Theosophy was founded 1874 with HPB 
and 
> > Henry 
> > > > S. Olcott among its founders."
> > > > 
> > > > "At her death in 1891, Blavatsky named William Q. Judge to 
be 
> > her 
> > > > personal agent in the Esoteric Section, . . ."
> > > > 
> > > > "Annie Besant, tireless English social reformer who had 
become a 
> > > > Theosophist after reading The Secret Doctrine, was 
designated 
> > the 
> > > > Recorder of the Esoteric Section at the time of HPB's death. 
> > Besant, 
> > > > as the Esoteric Section Recorder, had been entrusted with 
> > volumes 
> > > > three and four of The Secret Doctrine, that HPB had prepared 
for 
> > > > publication at a future date. These two volumes disappeared 
and 
> > were 
> > > > never seen again, although she subsequently published in 
lieu of 
> > > > HPB's finished work a third volume comprised of letters and 
> > > > fragments of manuscripts that Besant herself compiled. "
> > > > 
> > > > "The Narada Lodge was first chartered in 1890, chartered in 
1895 
> > by 
> > > > William Q. Judge's Theosophical Society In America, 
chartered by 
> > > > Kathryn Tingley's Universal Brotherhood in 1898, then 
chartered 
> > in 
> > > > 1899 by The American Section of Adyar."
> > > > 
> > > > "We at Narada Theosophical Society are only interested in 
one 
> > thing, 
> > > > and that is the study of Theosophy as presented by the 
Masters 
> > and 
> > > > early founders of the Theosophical Movement. We have offered 
to 
> > work 
> > > > with Wheaton, but not under them. We have been autonomous 
since 
> > we 
> > > > chartered with William Q. Judge on April 28-29, 1895 as The 
> > > > Theosophical Society in America. We rechartered with the 
> > American 
> > > > Section, Adyar again in January 1899, with a clause in our 
> > > > Constitution giving us legal autonomy, which they 
recognized. We 
> > > > were members of both Societies at the same time. We have 
been 
> > asked 
> > > > many times in our past to change our bylaws by Wheaton, but 
have 
> > > > declined, so as to not lose our grandfathered-in charters in 
the 
> > > > societies. 
> > > > 
> > > > John Scott, Vice President
> > > > Narada Theosophical Society"
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > > 
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