Theos-Talk Archives (November 2006 Message tt00234)

Daniel,


Again, I have to tell you perhaps something too abstract for you to really grasp it.

The ULT being no political party; the ULT being no 'Theosophical Church', the ULT having no "party line" --   I am not personally responsible for the first or the second edition of the book "The Theosophical Movement". 

Again, I believe differences of view had a role to play in previous moments which is not the role they should play now, necessarily. 


Now is the moment to go beyond mutual criticisms and to build a common ground of cooperation and mutual understanding. The common philosophy is more important than some frustrating past events. 

Why circulating gossips then?  We have no need for that. 


Regards,  Carlos. 




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Data:Fri, 03 Nov 2006 16:04:42 -0000

Assunto:Theos-World Carlos on "Why stir animosities?" and "gossip"

> Carlos writes:
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> Why stir animosities?
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> Are we not for universal brotherhood? Do gossips help anyone?
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> So does Carlos consider Theosophical history as "gossip"?
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> I ask the following:
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> Does Carlos really believe that the 1951 edition of THE THEOSOPHICAL
> MOVEMENT which is sold TODAY by the Theosophy Company, Los Angeles and 
> also sold by individual lodges of the ULT....does he really believe 
> that this work doesn't stir "animosities" or doesn't have the potential 
> of doing so?
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> What historical material have I presented either on Theos-Talk or on my 
> website that is any more controversial or capable of 
> stirring "animosities"?
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> Carlos throws around the word "gossip" but the historical material that 
> he has labelled "gossip", is this material really any different than 
> the material he presents about Leadbeater or Adyar?
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> I have heard a few Leadbeater students say the THE ELDER BROTHER by 
> Tillett is full of gossip, too.
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> Is Margaret Thomas' recounting of certain things about Leadbeater just 
> gossip?
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> See:
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> http://blavatskyarchives.com/ton2.pdf
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> It may not be pleasant to read all of this but is it gossip?
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> Or take the following material:
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> William Q. Judge and Katherine A. Tingley: An Analysis of the 
> Controversy Surrounding W.Q. Judge's Diary Entries about "Promise" and 
> the Dead H.P.B. including Material on the Close Relationship between 
> Mr. Judge and Mrs. Tingley by H.N. Stokes
> http://blavatskyarchives.com/stokes/stokeswqjktcon.htm
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> Is this gossip?
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> And if any of this historical material stirs animosities, then why is 
> that so? 
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> Maybe some Theosophists need to learn to manage their emotions better 
> and learn to view things calmly.
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> Promoting "universal brotherhood" is a wonderful ideal and also a 
> challenge to do it in day to day situations. 
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> I wish that we would have more practical demonstrations of that ideal 
> here on Theos-Talk.
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> But far too much of the time we have certain people on Theos-Talk who 
> have no hesitation in calling other posters "names" or questioning 
> other people's motives. How can one be for universal brotherhood and 
> at the same time engage in such behavior? Beats me.
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> But to discuss history and to try to set the record straight, why 
> equate that with "gossip" and "animosities"????
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> Daniel
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