Theos-Talk Archives (November 2006 Message tt00209)

Thanks.

mkr

On 11/3/06, Carl Ek <carl.ek@mail.com> wrote:
>
> "le Droit Humain" in the US
>
> http://www.comasonic.org/
>
> Carl
>
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "M K Ramadoss" <mkr777@...> wrote:
> >
> > From what I know, only "co-masonic" lodges that exist  in the US
> belong to
> > either the American Federation of Human Rights  or the Eastern
> one. Both of
> > them are independent of Le Droit Humain. Are there any in the US
> which owe
> > allegiance to Le Droit Humain.
> >
> > It looks like the key issue that triggered the groups going
> independent of
> > Paris is Paris demanding its appointed representative to have veto
> power on
> > the decisions of the orders.
> >
> > Any one knows any more info.
> >
> >
> > mkr
> >
> > On 11/2/06, Carl Ek <carl.ek@...> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > In the US, are still several real "Le Droit Humain", hence it
> was a
> > > minority that left. The real story behind it I don't know, but it
> > > could have had something to do with that "Le Droit Humain" around
> > > year 2000 got a new Grand Master.
> > >
> > > Carl
> > >
> > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "M K Ramadoss" <mkr777@>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Carl: Thanks for the info.
> > > > For a long time the co-masons in the US owed allegiance to
> Paris.
> > > First
> > > > split came prior to the litigation that took place in Colorado,
> > > which was
> > > > mainly on who will control the assets/properties. I have seen
> some
> > > of the
> > > > public documentation prior to this time and all of them in the
> US
> > > and India
> > > > refer to Le-Droit Humain. It looks like some years ago rest of
> the
> > > > theosphist based co-masons cut off their allegiance to Le Droit
> > > Humain. Does
> > > > anyone know the real story behind the cut-off?
> > > >
> > > > mkr
> > > >
> > > > On 11/1/06, Carl Ek <carl.ek@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > First, there are six different groups of Co-masons in the
> US, and
> > > > > thee of this are leadbeaterian.
> > > > >
> > > > > The "Le Droit Humain" has never been a part of the Adyar TS.
> > > After
> > > > > the death of John Yarker on 20 March 1913 Annie Besant
> becomes
> > > the
> > > > > head of the Co-masonry in the British Empire. Thru her
> Leadbeater
> > > > > and other Adyar-people got high offices in the "Le Droit
> Humain".
> > > > > They introduced the "Leadbeaerian Rite", in other words
> > > Leadbeater's
> > > > > own version of the Scottish Rite (A.A.S.R.). Around year
> 2000 the
> > > > > Supreme Council of the 33 and Highest Degree of the
> A.A.S.R. -
> > > "Le
> > > > > Droit Humain" in Paris forbid and band the "Leadbeaerian
> Rite",
> > > > > within its lodges. This Mr. Algeo and friends of course
> didn't
> > > like,
> > > > > so they left and founded their on order.
> > > > >
> > > > > There are still several Theosophists in the "Le Droit
> Humain",
> > > but
> > > > > they want to work according to the real Masonic Rite, and the
> > > > > tradition Co-Masonry.
> > > > >
> > > > > One interesting event within the history of Co-masonry was
> the
> > > > > meeting of the Sovereign Sanctuary in Manchester June 28
> 1913. In
> > > > > the article "Aleister Crowley: freemason!"
> > > > > by Martin P. Starr we find:
> > > > >
> > > > > "Richard Higham, a long-time member of the Antient and
> Primitive
> > > > > Rite, convoked a meeting of its Sovereign Sanctuary in his
> home
> > > city
> > > > > of Manchester on 28 June 1913.12 Crowley protested at the
> > > presence
> > > > > of Wedgwood, whom he challenged to prove himself a mason;
> > > Wedgwood
> > > > > replied with the mildness of a clergyman that if Crowley was
> > > right
> > > > > in his contention that Wedgwood was no mason, that Wedgwood
> was
> > > > > equally entitled to object to Crowley's presence, 'it being
> the
> > > > > first condition of membership that a candidate should be a
> > > freemason
> > > > > in good standing under the jurisdiction of the Grand Lodge of
> > > > > England'.13 After a diatribe by Crowley, attacking
> Besant, 'the
> > > > > nominal mistress' of the Theosophical Society, and her occult
> > > > > partner C. W Leadbeater, 'a senile sex-maniac', who is 'the
> hand
> > > > > which moves the wooden-headed pawn Wedgwood, hardly a man,
> > > certainly
> > > > > no Mason',14 the meeting disbanded sine die, only to regroup
> at
> > > > > Crowley's London studio on 30 June 1913, without Wedgwood and
> > > > > without incident, electing Henry Meyer to replace Yarker as
> > > > > Sovereign Grand Master General of the Rite. This convocation
> > > marks
> > > > > the effective terminus for the Antient and Primitive Rite,
> for it
> > > > > was Crowley's intent to consolidate all the 'bodies of
> > > initiates' in
> > > > > one system, that of the Ordo Templi Orientis, and he quickly
> lost
> > > > > all interest in Yarker's nearly moribund body. But there
> remained
> > > > > that nagging matter of masonic recognition, so Crowley
> strove for
> > > > > the last time to obtain the approval of the United Grand
> Lodge of
> > > > > England."
> > > > >
> > > > > Read the whole article on:
> > > http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/aqc/crowley.html
> > > > >
> > > > > I know that Theosophists normally not are friends of
> Crowley, but
> > > > > sometimes he hade certain points, as one can find above.
> > > > >
> > > > > For more info on Co-masonry see:
> > > > >
> > > > > www.droit-humain.org  (The webpage of the Supreme Council in
> > > Paris,
> > > > > the original Co-masons)
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.droit-humain.org/uk/ (The British Federation of
> above)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/biography/esoterica/besant_a/besant_a.html
> > > > > (Besant and Masonry)
> > > > > http://comasonic.net/ (Eastern Order of International Co-
> > > > > Freemasonry , Mr. Algeo's own leadbeaterian version)
> > > > > http://www.grandlodge.org.uk/ (This is the leadbeaterian
> friends
> > > of
> > > > > Mr. Algeo in England)
> > > > >
> > > > > The "Eastern Star Order of Co-masonry" is a break away group
> from
> > > > > Algeo's. This is  NOT to be mixed up with "Order of the
> Eastern
> > > > > Star" (that is an old "party order" and affiliated with the
> > > regular
> > > > > American Masonry).
> > > > >
> > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Droit_Humain (Wikipeida on
> Co-
> > > > > masonry, and link to other Co-masonic groups)
> > > > >
> > > > > Carl
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "M K Ramadoss" <mkr777@>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There are two groups of co-masons in the USA. One has no
> > > > > allegiance to the
> > > > > > leadership in Paris and is self-contained in the USA and
> the
> > > other
> > > > > has many
> > > > > > well known members of theosophy leaders active. Both have
> > > members
> > > > > of
> > > > > > theosophy.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The division of two groups was followed by litigation in
> the US
> > > > > Courts
> > > > > > (about the property and money) which has finally settled
> with a
> > > > > final
> > > > > > decision by the courts. There was msg posted which gave a
> URL
> > > link
> > > > > for the
> > > > > > full decision of the US  Appeals court which is of
> interest to
> > > > > anyone
> > > > > > interested in the historical background to co-masonry in
> the
> > > US.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > mkr
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Carl wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Eastern Star Order of Co-masonry (so
> called "theosophical
> > > > > > masonry" or leadbeterian, headed by Algeo) is very small
> > > outside
> > > > > the
> > > > > > US. And if a real co-mason of the "Le Droit Humain" has any
> > > > > > connection with this group, they will be anathemased at
> once.
> > > The
> > > > > > same will happen to all other masons, of the London or
> > > > > > Paris "divisions", too. The only two Eastern Star lodge,
> > > outside
> > > > > the
> > > > > > US I have heard of is in London and Amsterdam, but I think
> > > there
> > > > > > must be one in Adyar to.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Carl
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