Carl & Adyar's Maya
Nov 03, 2006 12:01 PM
by carlosaveline
Carl,
I am aware of the facts and views you bring us (see below), and I broadly share them.
I would not engage in a discussion of what is the result of A. Besant's individual karma in that incarnation, though. She certainly loved political power and was uselessly warned about it by the important 1900 letter (full text, only published in the late 1970s).
The question is, can more Adyar people open their eyes?
How long will their present 'Leadbeaterian Maya' resist? Mayas, or man-made illusions, do not last for ever.
Regards, Carlos.
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Assunto:[Spam] Theos-World Re: To Carl on the Movement Being Born Again
> Carlos,
>
> Yes, I it is may opinion that she (Annie Besant) was very much
> fooled. That pure woman was not "evil". She was manipulated, and
> under control of dark forces.
>
> In chapter 22 in H. P. Blavatsky and the Theosophical Movement by
> Charles J. Ryan:
>
> "Annie Besant was strongly impressed by the personality of the
> Brahmanical representative, G. N. Chakravarti, and for many years
> her opinions were colored by his point of view. W. Q. Judge watched
> his growing ascendancy over her mind with anxiety, feeling that it
> was not in harmony with H. P. Blavatsky's intense disapproval of the
> methods of what she called "religions of pomp and gold." He became
> more uneasy when, on Mrs. Besant's return to England with the party
> that included Mr. Chakravarti, she prepared to go to India on a long
> lecture-tour, and he warned her that it was not a propitious time to
> go. Before leaving, she spent a short time in London during which
> she saw a good deal of the Brahman, who left for India shortly
> before she and the Countess Wachtmeister started for the Orient. A
> vivid light is thrown upon this very critical time in the history of
> the T.S. by Dr. Archibald Keightley, a most reliable student under
> H.P.B. The following passage occurs in a long protest he made in
> defense of Mr. Judge during the crisis of 1895. After giving
> instances of Chakravarti's ability to throw glamour over individuals
> or groups, he wrote:
> I lived at Headquarters [London] during Mr. Chakravarti's visit
> there and knew from Mrs. Besant, from him and from personal
> observation, of his frequent magnetisation of Mrs. Besant. He said
> that he did it to, "coordinate her bodies for work to be done." To a
> physician and a student of occultism, the magnetisation of a woman
> advanced to the critical age of mid-life, a vegetarian, an ascetic,
> by a man, a meat-eater, one of full habit, large appetite and of
> another and dark race, is not wise. The latter magnetism will
> assuredly overcome the former, however excellent the intentions of
> both persons. And I soon saw the mental effect of this in Mrs.
> Besant's entire change of view, in other matters besides those of
> H.P.B. and Mr. Judge. -- The Path, X, 99-100, June 1895. "
> (http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/hpb-tm/hpbtm-22.htm)
>
> And Dr. Franz Hartmann, a very honest man and faithful Theosophist,
> described how she was hypnotized by Chakravarti.
>
> I don't know what is your opinion of the 1900-letter to Besant from
> K.H. But in that you may found more that supports this statement of
> me.
>
> Do you think that she after this treatment was controlling here own
> thoughts, feelings and acts? I think you not know that hypnotism is
> black magic. So have you ever heard of a person that is hypnotized,
> who control its own thoughts, feelings and acts? Do you not think
> she was an easy victim for Leadbeater, after this evil and horrible
> treatment of Chakravarti?
>
> During her last two and half year in live, she was suffering from
> deep depressions, and was psychological instable. She was mentally
> and spiritually very sick. This was caused by the treatments, of
> Chakravarti and Leadbeater, she hade been a victim of, but also that
> she was full of shame. She started to realise what big harm she
> coursed the Society, and she did not even want talk to Leadbeater
> her last year in live.
>
> They influence of Leadbeater is very well described in the indeed
> strange book "Investigations Into Early Rounds" by Annie Besant and
> C.W. Leadbeater ("Olcott", Wheaton, 1942), published by C.
> Jinarajadasa (as "O.H." of the Adyar E.S.T.). This is a protocol,
> recorded by Jinarajadasa and Bertram Keightley, from 1896 during
> a "séance". One can easily see how Leadbeater is leading Besant's
> thoughts.
>
> Carl
>
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline"
> wrote:
> >
> > Carl,
> >
> > A. Besant was fooled, yeah.
> >
> > Nowadays Ms. Radha tries to be honest -- yet she keeps the
> falsehoods going on, possible because of a feeling of responsibility
> for the continuation of the structure she honestly 'inherited'.
> >
> > There is a trend to renew things in the movement, though. I just
> received a personal email correctly saying that the movement is
> getting more and more "federational" and less "centralized".
> >
> > That's right I guess.
> >
> >
> > Centralized structures are in decadence, while decentralized
> structures are much better and rising. The movement is not dying --
> it is changing and being born again... Within and without Adyar.
> >
> > There are lots of good people within the Adyar TS, and Ms. Radha
> cannot be compared to John Algeo.
> >
> > But those parts of the movement which can see the importance of
> HPB (and Judge) have something to say...
> >
> >
> > Regards, Carlos.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > Data:Thu, 02 Nov 2006 14:52:32 -0000
> >
> > Assunto:Theos-World Re: On the verb "To Claim"
> >
> > > Carlos,
> > > I see your point, but I'm just following what my workbook is
> saying.
> > > And hence English is not my native language; I can, and do,
> > > mistakes. The colour of the word, you know.
> > >
> > > Personally, I do believe Leadbeater (and Chakravarti) was in
> > > contract whit Mahatmas/Masters, those we also call the Brethren
> of
> > > the Shadow.
> > >
> > > Besant I only feel sorry for, hence I don't think she lied; she
> was
> > > fooled be the two persons mentioned above.
> > >
> > > Carl
> > >
> > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline"
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Carl,
> > > >
> > > > HPB did not claim she was in contact with the Masters as one
> does
> > > not "claim" that the Sun uses to rise, or that it appears to
> rise
> > > everyday (from the viewpoint of a citizen in our planet).
> > > >
> > > > HPB said she had contact with Adepts as one says the
> Sun "rises"
> > > everyday.
> > > >
> > > > Leadbeater claimed he was in contact with the Mahatmas.
> > > >
> > > > And Daniel Caldwell claims that "HPB might be a fraud". He has
> > > been claiming that for a number of years, in case you do not
> know,
> > > Carl.
> > > >
> > > > Yet HPB students know better and say that HPB was NOT a fraud.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards, Carlos.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > > Data:Thu, 02 Nov 2006 13:56:41 -0000
> > > >
> > > > Assunto:Theos-World Re: MORE ON CLAIMS
> > > >
> > > > > I remember Blavatsky was claiming a lot.
> > > > > Claim is a neutral word. Its only mean that someone is
> saying
> > > that
> > > > > something is in a certain way, and word its self do not say
> if
> > > it is
> > > > > right or wrong. So Blavatsky claimed, and so did Judge,
> Crosbie,
> > > > > Besant, Leadbeater, Julius Cesar, Karl Marx, I do it and
> even
> > > > > Carlos. And we do it al the time. When we say that we
> believe
> > > that
> > > > > reincarnation is a fact in nature, we are actually claiming
> > > this.
> > > > >
> > > > > And about the national section of the Pasadena TS. In an e-
> mail,
> > > > > last week, from a European TS-fellow with regular contacts
> with
> > > the
> > > > > HQ in Pasadena it was written that the Finish Section was to
> be
> > > > > closed very soon. That makes nine sections. I see now that
> this
> > > > > section still is listed on Pasadena's webpage, but since
> there
> > > have
> > > > > been none activities in any form many years, I can see way
> it is
> > > to
> > > > > be closed. Sad, but the cold fact.
> > > > >
> > > > > Carl
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline"
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I do not remember HPB "claiming" anything. Or Crosbie. Or
> the
> > > > > ULT.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It was A. Besant who presented herself as an Adept -- HPB
> > > rarely
> > > > > or never stated that she was even a "Initiate".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It was C.W. Leadbeater who claimed he had several
> initiations,
> > > > > visited Mars and Mercury and talked to "Mr.Christ" nearly
> every
> > > > > week. And this is in the Adyar literature -- with good
> sources!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It was Besant and CWL who claimed Krishnamurti was the new
> > > > > Messiah, etc.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It is the Coulombs who claimed HPB "claimed" this or that.
> It
> > > is
> > > > > the Coulomb and Soloviof publicizers who 'claim' that
> > > > > Crosbie 'claimed' this or that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards, Carlos.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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> > > > > > Data:Thu, 02 Nov 2006 13:03:33 -0000
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Assunto:Theos-World Re: To Carl (& maybe Carlos) --- R.
> > > Crosbie
> > > > > Acting UNDER THE DIRECTION of a Master??
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks Daniel for this interesting posting.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Blavatsky claimed direct, and in no "cryptic ways, that
> she
> > > was
> > > > > an
> > > > > > > agent of the Masters, and acted on Their direct orders,
> both
> > > > > when
> > > > > > > she founded the TS in 1875, and when she founded the
> > > E.S.T.S. in
> > > > > > > 1888. She said this straight out. But with Crosbie it
> was
> > > > > something
> > > > > > > else.
> > > > > > > Crosbie was saying that some one was "one Witness"
> and "a
> > > > > Represent"
> > > > > > > of the Masters etc, but not that these one was him self.
> > > After
> > > > > his
> > > > > > > death, that ULT-people was claiming that this was
> Crosbie,
> > > but
> > > > > did
> > > > > > > he ever claimed that him self? I don't know, and answer
> is
> > > most
> > > > > > > probably hidden for the world in the archives of DES and
> > > > > Theosophy
> > > > > > > Company in Los Angeles. If not there is something in his
> > > > > writhing,
> > > > > > > that we have missed.
> > > > > > > I'm just guessing now. Could there have been some one
> else?
> > > Was
> > > > > > > Crosbie alone? The fact that Crosbie was married, with a
> > > young
> > > > > child
> > > > > > > (as far as know, he only hade one daughter), was a
> direct
> > > > > > > disqualification for him, to be a Chela. Could he have
> been
> > > > > working
> > > > > > > together with a Chela? How knows? The fact that the
> official
> > > > > history
> > > > > > > of the ULT not is fully reliable does not make this
> easier.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > For some years ago, one group president of the DES told
> me
> > > that
> > > > > they
> > > > > > > (the DES) consider "H.P.B." as their "sole Head" (no
> talk
> > > there
> > > > > > > about any I.H. or O.H., and their highest officer was
> > > a "simple
> > > > > > > Secretary", his words not mine), and that this was the
> case
> > > when
> > > > > it
> > > > > > > was founded (1909) and that this still is the case. If
> we
> > > take
> > > > > this
> > > > > > > by it word, it doesn't make sense. H.P.B. was the Master
> > > S.B.
> > > > > how
> > > > > > > was the Head of the First Section, and not of the Second
> > > Section
> > > > > > > (the ES). Master M. was I.H. of the ES, and H.P.
> Blavatsky
> > > was
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > O.H. And if we believe the he was meaning H.P.
> Blavatsky, it
> > > > > still
> > > > > > > doesn't make any sense. Only if H.P. Blavatsky today is
> a
> > > > > Master,
> > > > > > > but then the ULT-people know something the rest of the
> > > > > Theosophical
> > > > > > > world doesn't know anything about.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I haven't seen much of the DES-material, but is there
> > > something
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > not is to be found the material of Blavatsky's and
> Judge's
> > > EST,
> > > > > or
> > > > > > > not in common is known? If there is nothing, which I
> think,
> > > the
> > > > > ULT-
> > > > > > > people can say what they wants, for in a "new start" of
> an
> > > > > Esoteric
> > > > > > > body, direct under the leadership of the Master, there
> must
> > > be
> > > > > > > something. Further instructions or explanations etc. I
> know
> > > that
> > > > > > > P.B. Wadia wrote new material for the DES, but I haven't
> > > seen
> > > > > this,
> > > > > > > so I don't know that this is about.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > About claims within the ULT. One other thing is that
> some
> > > > > leading
> > > > > > > ULT-associates are saying that Mr. Judge immediately
> after
> > > hid
> > > > > death
> > > > > > > took over the body after a young boy in New York City,
> who
> > > just
> > > > > dead
> > > > > > > in ammonia, and that this boy when he was older joined
> the
> > > ULT.
> > > > > So
> > > > > > > maybe this boy was the Chela Crosbie was working
> together
> > > whit?
> > > > > Who
> > > > > > > knows?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I just said that "some leading ULT-associates" are
> saying
> > > this,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > NOT that the ULT is saying it. So please, don't make me
> to
> > > > > repeat
> > > > > > > this.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Carl
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "danielhcaldwell"
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > To Carl (& maybe Carlos)---
> > > > > > > > Robert Crosbie Acting UNDER THE DIRECTION of a Master??
> > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > In 1887, H.P. Blavatsky wrote to Countess Constance
> > > > > Wachtmeister
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > following:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "After a long conversation with Master....either I
> have to
> > > > > return
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > India to die . . . or I have to form ... a nucleus of
> true
> > > > > > > > Theosophists, a school of my own ... with as many
> mystics
> > > as I
> > > > > can
> > > > > > > > get to teach them...."
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Later in Sept. 1888 in a letter to John Ransom Bridge,
> HPB
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "...I am organizing...a special centre ... of
> exclusively
> > > > > occult
> > > > > > > > students, willing to accept...the teachings of which I
> am
> > > the
> > > > > > > channel
> > > > > > > > and which I cannot impart except to pledged
> members...."
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > In the "Preliminary Memorandum" issued in Dec. 1888,
> one
> > > finds
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > following:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "The real Head of the Esoteric Section is a Master, of
> > > whom
> > > > > H.P.
> > > > > > > > Blavatsky is the mouthpiece for this Section. He is
> one of
> > > > > those
> > > > > > > > Adepts referred to in theosophical literature, and
> > > concerned
> > > > > in
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > formation of the Theosophical Society. It is through
> H.P.
> > > > > > > Blavatsky
> > > > > > > > that each member of this section will be brought more
> > > closely
> > > > > than
> > > > > > > > hitherto under His influence and care if found worthy
> of
> > > it."
> > > > > > > > Quoted from:
> > > > > http://www.katinkahesselink.net/esinstr.htm#prelim1
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > From the above, one sees that H.P. Blavatsky formed
> the
> > > > > Esoteric
> > > > > > > > Section AT THE DIRECTION of the Master. And the Master
> was
> > > the
> > > > > > > REAL
> > > > > > > > Head of the Section and H.P. Blavatsky was the
> MOUTHPIECE
> > > of
> > > > > this
> > > > > > > > Master for the Section.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Now consider what the historian Gregory Tillett has
> > > written
> > > > > about
> > > > > > > > Robert Crosbie and the Dzyan Esoteric School:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Within the ULT a separate ES, claiming continuity
> with
> > > that
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > HPB,
> > > > > > > > was established in 1909 with the title 'Dzyan Esoteric
> > > > > School',
> > > > > > > which
> > > > > > > > it claimed was the proper title of the Second
> [Esoteric]
> > > > > Section
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > the Theosophical Society."
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Dr. Tillett also wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "The first DES group was established in Los Angeles by
> > > Robert
> > > > > > > Crosbie
> > > > > > > > in November 1909...."
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Quoted from:
> > > > > > > > "DES", http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theos-
> > > talk/message/36730
> > > > > > > > Posted on Theos-Talk, Tues Oct 31, 2006, 1:19 pm
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Notice that Dr. Tillett writes that the DES claimed
> > > CONTINUITY
> > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > the ES of HPB.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Now ponder this:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If H.P. Blavatsky formed the Esoteric Section in 1888
> > > UNDER
> > > > > THE
> > > > > > > > DIRECTION of her Master, then under WHOSE DIRECTION
> did
> > > Robert
> > > > > > > > Crosbie form in 1909 the Dzyan Esoteric School?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > And was there a Master who was actually the real Head
> of
> > > the
> > > > > Dzyan
> > > > > > > > Esoteric School?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > And if H.P. Blavatsky was the MOUTHPIECE of her Master
> for
> > > the
> > > > > > > > Esoteric Section, was Robert Crosbie the "mouthpiece"
> of a
> > > > > Master
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > the Dzyan Esoteric School?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > These questions seem very relevant and appropriate to
> ask
> > > in
> > > > > light
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > what H.P. Blavatsky wrote and especially since Robert
> > > Crosbie
> > > > > > > himself
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "If, then, the true Theosophical Movement, and THE
> TRUE
> > > CHELAS
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > School of the Masters are NOT to be found among those
> > > > > [persons,
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > example, Mrs. Besant and Mrs. Tingley] who have lost
> the
> > > point
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > > contact with the Masters, while yet loudly proclaiming
> > > > > themselves
> > > > > > > > Initiates and Outer and Inner Heads of this, that, and
> the
> > > > > other
> > > > > > > > theosophical society and esoteric section, WHERE MAY
> THEY
> > > > > [ ...
> > > > > > > THE
> > > > > > > > TRUE CHELAS ...] BE DISCERNED? . . ." Theosophy, March
> > > 1915.
> > > > > > > caps
> > > > > > > > added.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ". . . The various theosophical societies and esoteric
> > > > > sections OF
> > > > > > > > THE DAY are in no sense representative of the School
> of
> > > the
> > > > > > > Masters
> > > > > > > > or the Theosophical Movement. . . The Anciently
> universal
> > > > > Wisdom-
> > > > > > > > Religion, the School of the Masters and the
> Theosophical
> > > > > Movement
> > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > in unbroken continuity of existence to-day as
> > > always. . . ."
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "NOW, as always, they have THEIR REPRESENTATIVES AND
> > > AGENTS
> > > > > AMONG
> > > > > > > > MEN, who cannot be found out by any but those who have
> > > earned
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > right to know them. . . ." Theosophy, February 1915.
> caps
> > > > > added.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Since Crosbie founded this secret Dzyan Esoteric
> School,
> > > was
> > > > > he
> > > > > > > > himself a "true chela", a "representative" and "agent"
> of
> > > the
> > > > > > > > Masters among men?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Especially since he had in so many words stated that
> Mrs.
> > > > > Besant,
> > > > > > > > Mrs. Tingley, etc had "lost the point of contact with
> the
> > > > > > > Masters".
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So was he NOW "the point of contact with the Masters"?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Also keep in mind that at his death, THEOSOPHY
> magazine
> > > > > proclaimed
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > no uncertain terms:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Robert Crosbie preserved unbroken the link of the
> Second
> > > > > > > [Esoteric]
> > > > > > > > Section of the Theosophical Movement from the passing
> of
> > > Mr.
> > > > > Judge
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > 1896, and in 1907 - just eleven years later - made
> that
> > > link
> > > > > once
> > > > > > > > more Four Square amongst men. In the year 1909 the
> Third
> > > > > Section
> > > > > > > was
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> Theosophy
> > > > > > > magazine,
> > > > > > > > August, 1919.
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> > > > > > > > Crosbie believed Judge was the agent and
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> > > > > > > > Masters when he was still alive. So if indeed Crosbie
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> > > > > > > > one Witness = true Chela = Representative = Agent of
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