Theos-Talk Archives (November 2006 Message tt00197)

Carl,

Thanks. 

To my view, among other reasons, Leadbeater cannot be supported  or accepted any longer --  by any group which wants to be taken seriously. 

"Le Droit Humain" saw that. 

Tillett's biography ("The Elder Brother") helped a lot along this 'road to realism'.  

Adyar TS has been slowly and silently "forgetting" Leadbeatter and his books for some decades now. 

Unfortunately, they have not done yet what they must do: to get rid of the whole fake "occult" power-structure created by Leadbeater, because such a structure is not healthy. 

There is a sense of "loyalty to the outer structure" in Adyar leaders. Ask Ms. Radha Burnier about that. 

Carlos. 

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Assunto:[Spam] Theos-World Re: Co-masonry

> The leadbeaterian "masons" did not "cut off their allegiance to Le 
> Droit Humain", they where more or less kicked out (one can say that 
> they wasn't welcome anymore), the Supreme Council in Paris forbid 
> the Leadbeaterian Rites", and also to spread leadbeaterian ideas, 
> within its lodges. So the leadbeaterian left and opened their on 
> illegal and irregular lodges.
> 
> In the US, are still several real "Le Droit Humain", hence it was a 
> minority that left. The real story behind it I don't know, but it 
> could have had something to do with that "Le Droit Humain" around 
> year 2000 got a new Grand Master.
> 
> Carl
> 
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "M K Ramadoss" wrote:
> >
> > Carl: Thanks for the info.
> > For a long time the co-masons in the US owed allegiance to Paris. 
> First
> > split came prior to the litigation that took place in Colorado, 
> which was
> > mainly on who will control the assets/properties. I have seen some 
> of the
> > public documentation prior to this time and all of them in the US 
> and India
> > refer to Le-Droit Humain. It looks like some years ago rest of the
> > theosphist based co-masons cut off their allegiance to Le Droit 
> Humain. Does
> > anyone know the real story behind the cut-off?
> > 
> > mkr
> > 
> > On 11/1/06, Carl Ek wrote:
> > >
> > > First, there are six different groups of Co-masons in the US, and
> > > thee of this are leadbeaterian.
> > >
> > > The "Le Droit Humain" has never been a part of the Adyar TS. 
> After
> > > the death of John Yarker on 20 March 1913 Annie Besant becomes 
> the
> > > head of the Co-masonry in the British Empire. Thru her Leadbeater
> > > and other Adyar-people got high offices in the "Le Droit Humain".
> > > They introduced the "Leadbeaerian Rite", in other words 
> Leadbeater's
> > > own version of the Scottish Rite (A.A.S.R.). Around year 2000 the
> > > Supreme Council of the 33 and Highest Degree of the A.A.S.R. -
> "Le
> > > Droit Humain" in Paris forbid and band the "Leadbeaerian Rite",
> > > within its lodges. This Mr. Algeo and friends of course didn't 
> like,
> > > so they left and founded their on order.
> > >
> > > There are still several Theosophists in the "Le Droit Humain", 
> but
> > > they want to work according to the real Masonic Rite, and the
> > > tradition Co-Masonry.
> > >
> > > One interesting event within the history of Co-masonry was the
> > > meeting of the Sovereign Sanctuary in Manchester June 28 1913. In
> > > the article "Aleister Crowley: freemason!"
> > > by Martin P. Starr we find:
> > >
> > > "Richard Higham, a long-time member of the Antient and Primitive
> > > Rite, convoked a meeting of its Sovereign Sanctuary in his home 
> city
> > > of Manchester on 28 June 1913.12 Crowley protested at the 
> presence
> > > of Wedgwood, whom he challenged to prove himself a mason; 
> Wedgwood
> > > replied with the mildness of a clergyman that if Crowley was 
> right
> > > in his contention that Wedgwood was no mason, that Wedgwood was
> > > equally entitled to object to Crowley's presence, 'it being the
> > > first condition of membership that a candidate should be a 
> freemason
> > > in good standing under the jurisdiction of the Grand Lodge of
> > > England'.13 After a diatribe by Crowley, attacking Besant, 'the
> > > nominal mistress' of the Theosophical Society, and her occult
> > > partner C. W Leadbeater, 'a senile sex-maniac', who is 'the hand
> > > which moves the wooden-headed pawn Wedgwood, hardly a man, 
> certainly
> > > no Mason',14 the meeting disbanded sine die, only to regroup at
> > > Crowley's London studio on 30 June 1913, without Wedgwood and
> > > without incident, electing Henry Meyer to replace Yarker as
> > > Sovereign Grand Master General of the Rite. This convocation 
> marks
> > > the effective terminus for the Antient and Primitive Rite, for it
> > > was Crowley's intent to consolidate all the 'bodies of 
> initiates' in
> > > one system, that of the Ordo Templi Orientis, and he quickly lost
> > > all interest in Yarker's nearly moribund body. But there remained
> > > that nagging matter of masonic recognition, so Crowley strove for
> > > the last time to obtain the approval of the United Grand Lodge of
> > > England."
> > >
> > > Read the whole article on: 
> http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/aqc/crowley.html
> > >
> > > I know that Theosophists normally not are friends of Crowley, but
> > > sometimes he hade certain points, as one can find above.
> > >
> > > For more info on Co-masonry see:
> > >
> > > www.droit-humain.org (The webpage of the Supreme Council in 
> Paris,
> > > the original Co-masons)
> > >
> > > http://www.droit-humain.org/uk/ (The British Federation of above)
> > >
> > > 
> http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/biography/esoterica/besant_a/besant_a.html
> > > (Besant and Masonry)
> > > http://comasonic.net/ (Eastern Order of International Co-
> > > Freemasonry , Mr. Algeo's own leadbeaterian version)
> > > http://www.grandlodge.org.uk/ (This is the leadbeaterian friends 
> of
> > > Mr. Algeo in England)
> > >
> > > The "Eastern Star Order of Co-masonry" is a break away group from
> > > Algeo's. This is NOT to be mixed up with "Order of the Eastern
> > > Star" (that is an old "party order" and affiliated with the 
> regular
> > > American Masonry).
> > >
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Droit_Humain (Wikipeida on Co-
> > > masonry, and link to other Co-masonic groups)
> > >
> > > Carl
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "M K Ramadoss" 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > There are two groups of co-masons in the USA. One has no
> > > allegiance to the
> > > > leadership in Paris and is self-contained in the USA and the 
> other
> > > has many
> > > > well known members of theosophy leaders active. Both have 
> members
> > > of
> > > > theosophy.
> > > >
> > > > The division of two groups was followed by litigation in the US
> > > Courts
> > > > (about the property and money) which has finally settled with a
> > > final
> > > > decision by the courts. There was msg posted which gave a URL 
> link
> > > for the
> > > > full decision of the US Appeals court which is of interest to
> > > anyone
> > > > interested in the historical background to co-masonry in the 
> US.
> > > >
> > > > mkr
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Carl wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Eastern Star Order of Co-masonry (so called "theosophical
> > > > masonry" or leadbeterian, headed by Algeo) is very small 
> outside
> > > the
> > > > US. And if a real co-mason of the "Le Droit Humain" has any
> > > > connection with this group, they will be anathemased at once. 
> The
> > > > same will happen to all other masons, of the London or
> > > > Paris "divisions", too. The only two Eastern Star lodge, 
> outside
> > > the
> > > > US I have heard of is in London and Amsterdam, but I think 
> there
> > > > must be one in Adyar to.
> > > >
> > > > Carl
> > > >
> > > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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