Theos-Talk Archives (November 2006 Message tt00115)

Carl,


Thanks for the contribution.  

Also, the ULT has no members -- it has Associates. It is no corporation. It has no party line.  It is an international study-group.  Rather a federation of free-thinkers who have HPB's and Judge's  philosophy in common. 

Regards,  Carlos. 





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Data:Thu, 02 Nov 2006 05:00:36 -0000

Assunto:Theos-World Re: TOWARDS AN UPDATED WORLD MAP

> Comments;
> Pasadena TS has nine sections today; seven of those are active in 
> eight countries. 
> 
> The ULT has 25 lodges (plus some official Study Groups manly in the 
> US, and so called Theosophy Groups, the last ones are not officially 
> parts of the ULT, and are often new started and connected with the 
> ULT) present in twelve countries. 
> 
> The numbers of members are not official, nether in Pasadena TS or 
> ULT. One can guess, and get it more or less right, put I don't think 
> that is the right thing to do.
> 
> Carl
> 
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline" 
> wrote:
> >
> > Friends,
> > 
> > In the last couple of days, new information came to my mind as 
> to "the map of the theosophical movement, worldwide". Especiellly on 
> Pasadena TS and Point Loma groups. 
> > 
> > I will try to sum it up, broadly speaking. Corrections, 
> additions and commentaries will be welcome. 
> > 
> > 1) Adyar TS -- some 30,000 members worldwide in some 50/60 
> countries, including some 5,000 people in the USA and some 11,000 
> people in India; that will make some 90 or 95 of the so-
> called 'Theosophists' worldwide ( Arcane School, Anthroposophic 
> Society and Sudda Dharma not included in this figure, therefore ). 
> The Adyar TS still has probably a few hundreds of active HPB 
> students, who keep a distance from CWL/Besant books. These HPB 
> students are in the UK, Mexico, Argentina and other places. 
> > 
> > 2) Pasadena TS -- an unknown number of people, with rather small 
> groups. Some four of them are in the USA, and there are more groups 
> present in some seven other countries (which makes eight countries 
> with the USA). The Pasadena TS has the important Theosophical 
> University Press, T.U.P., and several magazines (the best known 
> being "Sunrise"). I guess the Pasadena TS is very healthy in 
> spiritual terms, though smaller trhan I would like them to be. 
> > 
> > 3) United Lodge of Theosophists, ULT -- present with organized 
> groups in some 15 countries (Brazil and Portugal, with but a few 
> associates, not included). Several groups in the USA. Various 
> magazines, including "Theosophy" and "The Theosophical Movement" 
> (monthly, edited in India). Innerly healthy. As the Pasadena TS, it 
> does not care for making too much propaganda and does not gets 
> involved in conflicts. 
> > 4) Point Loma groups -- several small groups in Germany, a few 
> others in Europe. They are inspired by "Point Loma Publications" and 
> are influenced by G. de Purucker. Also somehow present in the USA. 
> My contacts with them give me a very positive view of their work. 
> > 5) The Edmonton Theosophical Society -- apparently rather local in 
> Edmonton city, Canada, but publishing the influential international 
> magazine FOHAT in English language. Sincere theosophists. Deep 
> students. 
> > 6) A number of independent efforts here and there, as the 
> influential "Biosofia" magazine in Lisbon, Portugal (led by Mr. José 
> Manuel Anacleto); Mr. José Ramón Sordo's "Fundación Blavatsky", in 
> Mexico, or Richard Robb's "Wizards Bookshelf" in the USA ( besides 
> various others) . These three are examples of important efforts. 
> Mr. Sordo leads various theosophical groups in Mexico. Ricard Robb's 
> work is editorial, well-known worldwide, and it is now related to 
> the Pasadena TS. "Biosofia" magazine is related to an important 
> cultural institute in Portugal. 
> > 7) The Arcane School, World Goodwill and related groups/efforts 
> who promote planetary citizenship and support to the United Nations 
> work. they azre inspired by Alice Bailey's books. Their membes do 
> not call themselves "theosophists", but have interesting views 
> about universal brotherhood and other universalist concepts. They 
> recognize HPB as one of their inspiring sources. Present in several 
> countries, including Brazil. It has some influence over members of 
> the Adyar TS. 
> > 8) Anthroposophic Society and its related Waldorf Schools. This 
> is a German originated split from the Theosophical Society. 
> Present in various countries besides Germany -- including Brazil, 
> where they have several books edited in Portuguese language. 
> Interesting work to know. 
> > 9) Suddha Dharma Mandalam -- a Theosophical split in India, 
> originated by 1917 from Adyar. It is an esoteric school in more 
> than one way, created around the expectation of a "Kalki Avatar" who 
> could be an Indian counterpart to Westernized and Christianized J. 
> Krishnamnurti (an L.C.C. "Christ"). In South America, Sudda Dharma 
> Mandalam started in Chile, and later had some force in Brazil, with 
> several organized groups here. Now very weak where it is not 
> inactive. Latent. Yet its ex-members keep their identity and their 
> lives' inspiration. Have their own version of the B. Gita and work 
> with their own version of Raja Yoga. Interesting. I have known 
> soime serious, well-disciplined members. 
> > OOOOOOOOOOOOOO
> > The way I sense it, the 'real nucleus" of the theosophical 
> movement by now is made of HPB/Masters students in the Pasadena TS, 
> ULT, Adyar TS, Edmonton TS, Point Loma Groups and various 
> independent groups/initiatives around the world led by HPB students, 
> in most cases HPB/Judge students. 
> > 
> > Yet Arcane shool and similar movements should rather not be 
> ignmored in my view.
> > 
> > Even the Ancient and Mystic Rosicrucian Order (AMORC) should 
> probably be mentioned, as it has a relation (in its origin and 
> views), with the theosophical movement. I am certainly leaving 
> other groups aside out of lack of information or remembrance. 
> > 
> > This is an unrevised spontaneous report. It was not prepared in 
> my library, where all documents are. It is but part of the map of 
> the movement as it stands in my mind's eye this afternoon ( 6: 30 
> p. m., Brazilian time now). 
> > 
> > As I said earlier, commentaries and corrections are most welcome. 
> > 
> > You can see that the movement, broadly speaking, is not too 
> small. 
> > 
> > Yet we should improve it as much as we can in our present 
> lifetimes. 
> > 
> > Regards, Carlos. 
> > 
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