Theos-Talk Archives (November 2006 Message tt00024)

Not successor to HBP, but successor of Judge as head of the "Third 
Section" (the exoteric society). What or if he was claimed to be an 
agent of the Masters, I do not know. Same are saying that, as you 
very well know, and even ULT-associates are doing this (se the 
introduction of the Yahoo group "Theosophia"). And others are 
denying this. I think, as other has said here. We will not know the 
truth before the Theosophy Company in Los Angeles opens its 
archives. Even leading members of other ULT-lodges (then Los 
Angeles), has problems with access to this archive. I am not, in any 
way criticizing Crosbie. His writhing has been in my one study, of 
in great value, and still very much is. I may be critical to the ULT 
(as an organisation) on same ways as it is today, but that has not 
anything to do with Crosbie, or his work. 

Best regards,

Carl

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline" 
<carlosaveline@...> wrote:
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> Carl,
> 
> I still don't see any real source as to Robert Crosbie's  supposed 
claims to be a successor of HPB's.   On the contrary, he has written 
against the very idea of successorship. Can you materialialize any 
real source to that rumour?  Or is it something which was said by 
people who wanted to criticize the ULT or Crosbie?  
> 
> I tend to be this is fiction.  We have to constantly re-examine 
our sources... 
> 
> 
> Regards,  Carlos. 
> 
> 
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> Data:Wed, 01 Nov 2006 01:27:47 -0000
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> Assunto:Theos-World Re: â??Successorsâ??!?
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> > Chuck!
> > 
> > I didn't say anything about that "personalities" should matter. 
For 
> > me, the question about succeeding is stupid, hence I can't see 
that 
> > anyone could succeed nether Blavatsky, nor Judge, in occult 
matters 
> > as Teachers (in till the next Messenger from the Lodge, of 
curse). 
> > As Leader/President of the T.S. is it something else. My point 
was 
> > as I wrote; "which was faithful, to the real and true impulse of 
the 
> > Masters after W.Q.J. past away, and followed the True 
Theosophical 
> > Path", instead of only discus on what his or hers claims was 
based 
> > on (right or wrong). In other words, where do we find or found 
this 
> > after W.Q.J. death. Which Theosophical group/succeeder 
as "leader" 
> > (I don't mean this in a Pasadena terminological way) was 
actually 
> > true to the Holy Cause? Mrs. Tingley, Mr. Crosbie and Mr. 
Hargrove 
> > were al, more or less, claiming to succeed Mr. Judge in some 
way. 
> > Mrs. Tingley claimed to be it occult (as Teacher), and Mr. 
Crosbie 
> > and Mr. Hargrove to be the "visible head" of the true Third 
Section 
> > (and Second Section in Crosbie's case also, if Mr. Hargrove hade 
any 
> > claims in this matter I do not know for sure) and the/an agent 
of 
> > the Master.
> > 
> > We need Theosophical organizations, in some way for many 
reasons. 
> > Then, as well as today. And we need Theosophical organizations 
which 
> > are faithful to the real and true impulse of the Masters (the 
Cause, 
> > the Doctrines and Teachings and so on), and who follows the True 
> > Theosophical Path.
> > 
> > And Chuck! You are on this "mailing list" also, so that most 
include 
> > you to!? 
> > 
> > Carl
> > 
> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Drpsionic@ wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > In a message dated 10/31/2006 4:14:59 AM Central Standard 
Time, 
> > > carl.ek@ writes:
> > > 
> > > Do any serious Theosophist or Student of Theosophy really 
thinks 
> > that 
> > > anyone could, what so ever, succeed Blavatsky or Judge? Isn't 
the 
> > > question, which was faithful, to the real and true impulse of 
the 
> > > Masters after W.Q.J. past away, and followed the True 
> > Theosophical 
> > > Path? So was it Mrs. Tingley or Mr. Crosbie, or even Mr. 
> > Hargrove? 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I don't see why it would even matter. Theosophy is not about 
the 
> > > personalities but about the ideas.
> > > 
> > > Other than the folks on these mailing lists, no one cares.
> > > 
> > > Chuck the Heretic
> > > 
> > > 
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