Theos-Talk Archives (September 2006 Message tt00362)

Daniel,


Thanks. 

Please consider that the abuse of portraits is worse than merely "popularizing" the names of the Masters. 

It is part and parcel of the whole process of creating the illusion that they are "personalities".

While HPB wrote "The Key", the abuse had not reached the portraits yet! 

I am confident in that you can  calmly consider this, with no feelings of automatic rejection about any thoughts which are different from your own. 

Regards,   Carlos. 


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Assunto:Theos-World "Key" quote by HPB & HPB giving Master portraits to esoteric students

> "Key" quote by HPB and 
> HPB giving Master portraits to esoteric students
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> Carlos,
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> H.P.B. did make a valiant self-criticism about giving
> out "personal" information about the Masters.
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> Please take a look at what she had to say in "The Key":
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> " I say again, every earnest Teosophist regrets to-day, from the 
> bottom of his heart, that these sacred names and things have ever 
> been mentioned before the public, and fervently wishes that they had 
> been kept secret within a small circle of trusted and devoted 
> friends. (......) Had we acted on the wise principle of silence, 
> instead of rushing into notoriety and publishing all we knew and 
> heard, such desecration would never have occurred." ( see note 1, 
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> Not being a hypocrite, H.P.B. honestly and publically admited her 
> mistakes. 
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> Isn't that a beautiful example for us? Would you follow her steps, 
> brother Daniel? Will you help preserve respect for the Masters and 
> avoid slanders about them, or their 19 th century main Helper?
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> Carlos, please remember that the main topic of our thread has been 
> the portraits of the Masters. And of focusing on the portraits and 
> letting people see them and all of that causing people, students, 
> theosophists to focus on the Masters at "the personalistic level".
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> Therefore, your quote from HPB is helpful in some respects but 
> please remember that HPB published the KEY in 1889. So her words 
> above are dated 1889.
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> Yet it was one year later in 1890 that she decided to allow her 
> esoteric students to have copies of the portraits of the Masters 
> for their personal use.
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> In 1890-91 there were approximately 1000 students in H.P.B.'s 
> Esoteric School.
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> So the question and issue revolving around the portraits of the 
> Masters is not solved by referring to her words in the KEY.
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> Why was she allowing in 1890 this number of students to have access 
> and copies of the portraits of the Masters if all you have said 
> about this subject is true?
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> I refresh your memory of what you wrote:
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> Presenting Adeptship not as a fact which occurs at the higher levels 
> of consciousness, but downgrading it as something related 
> to "personal names", physical personalities and portraits – such an 
> action closes the door to a higher perception of things, for 
> thousands of ill-advised people.
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> If the first idea of the Masters, in the mind of a neophyte, is 
> drawn at the personalistic level, the whole learning process starts 
> from illusion and from a narrow view of life.
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> By allowing her esoteric students to have portraits of the Masters - 
> certainly these portraits conjure up physical personalities and 
> personal names! - isn't she doing what you say should not be done, 
> i.e., allowing the idea of the Masters to be drawn down to the 
> personalistic level?
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