Theos-Talk Archives (August 2006 Message tt00575)

Friends,


Alaya (who wrote the message below) lives in Brazil. She happens to know something about the background of the theosophical movement in recent decades around here. 

She knows well, for instance, how a significant Brazilian Theosophist named Alberto Brum de Souza, and some of his friends,  had to leave the Theosophical Society (Adyar) in Brazil in the early 1990s.  

Leadbeaterian Priests moved a persecution against them. They were sincere Blavatsky and Theosophy students, and had discovered the utter falsehood of Pseudo-Theosophy.  


But it was not the only such persecution, of course. 


Best regards,   Carlos. 



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Data:Tue, 22 Aug 2006 18:55:58 -0000

Assunto:Theos-World Re: To Carlos Aveline

> Yes, we should avoid personal confrontation..
> but I wonder Pedro.. what is the best attitude? maybe to tell lies
> about the friends you met in porto alegre on their back?
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> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "pedro oliveira" 
> wrote:
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> > Dear Carlos,
> > 
> > This is a personal appeal to you. You may wish to ignore it, 
> > ridicule it or use it against me. I have no control of how you are 
> > going to respond to it, nor wish to have. It is entirely up to you.
> > 
> > If my memory serves me well, we first met in Porto Alegre, in 1980, 
> > when you joined Dharma TS Lodge in that city. You contributed many 
> > talks to the Lodge while at the same time being very active in the 
> > environmental movement, both in Brazil and in other countries. You 
> > wrote a number of books, some of which have had excerpts published 
> > in "Sophia", the national magazine of the TS in Brazil.
> > 
> > I am also aware of your contacts with Geoffrey Farthing and how much 
> > you admired him and learned from him. I happened to be present at 
> > the General Council meeting at Adyar, in December 1995, when the 
> > (unanimous) decision was made to award the Subba Row Medal to Mr 
> > Farthing for his distinguished contribution to theosophical 
> > literature. I had read many of his articles in 'The Theosophist' and 
> > even reviewed his book 'Deity, Cosmos and Man' in that magazine. One 
> > of my favourite articles by him - 'HPB on Meditation and Yoga' - was 
> > published in that same magazine in its December, 1992 issue.
> > 
> > Interestingly, at that same meeting of the General Council it was 
> > also decided to also award the Subba Row Medal to Dr Hugh Shearman, 
> > another well-known author who, like Mr Farthing, has also passed 
> > away. The nature of their contributions could not be more different, 
> > and while Mr Farthing was a very energetic exponent of 
> > the 'original' Theosophy as taught by HPB and the Masters, Dr 
> > Shearman utilized his theosophical insights to understand the world 
> > of literature, psychology, sociology and mysticism in his many books 
> > and numerous articles. I felt the Council's decision was a very 
> > balanced one.
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> > Why am I saying all this? Perhaps to suggest to you that in the 
> > theosophical movement we can have debate and vigorous discussion 
> > without personal attacks and vilification. I have read quite a 
> > number of articles by Mr Farthing and did not find even one word of 
> > attack or harsh criticism against anyone. The same with Dr Shearman. 
> > And I sure these two men did not see eye to eye in matters relating 
> > to theosophical teachings. 
> > 
> > I am aware of your accusations against John Algeo and Daniel 
> > Caldwell. You have repeated them on this list almost every day since 
> > you joined it earlier this year. Perhaps I can share some 
> > information here about how Dr Algeo's work is making HPB's teachings 
> > more widely known in Australia, for example. Last year, the 
> > Australian Section distributed, among its Lodges, Branches and 
> > Groups, copies of the DVD 'HPB's Diagram of Meditation' featuring 
> > John Algeo as a presenter. The Section has an approximate membership 
> > of 1,250 and we had enthusiastic response from members about the 
> > DVD. His study course 'Getting Acquainted with The Secret Doctrine' 
> > is also quite popular here and is regularly used in a number of 
> > Lodges.
> > 
> > Daniel Caldwell has, arguably, the most comprehensive Blavatsky-
> > related web site that I know of. Perhaps one day he could post on 
> > theos-talk the usage statistics for Blavatsky Archives.:) We have a 
> > link to the site on the Australian Section's web site and many 
> > members find it very informative. You may not know this, but in the 
> > past I had some discussions with Daniel and others on theos-talk, 
> > and at times I would feel like a LSD (Leadbeaterian Sitting Duck), 
> > but I was also seen sometimes as an ASD (Adyar Spin Doctor).:) Those 
> > were difficult times but we all apparently survived.
> > 
> > Your knowledge of theosophical history and the Teachings is admired 
> > by many. However, your attitude to those who disagree with you is 
> > causing distress, unnecessary hurt feelings and a sense that the 
> > space on this list has been hijacked by your interests. Therefore I 
> > would like to respectfully ask you:
> > 
> > Can we bring to this list, which consists of almost 300 people world 
> > wide, a sense of healing? 
> > 
> > Can we engage in discussions in a spirit of courtesy, consideration 
> > and mutual respect, abandoning all personal attacks? 
> > 
> > Can we share our love for Theosophy by treating each other in a 
> > brotherly manner, particularly when we disagree? 
> > 
> > Can you help to restore harmony in this collective space which we 
> > call theos-talk?
> > 
> > If you decide that all the above is just a load of codswallop from 
> > an inveterate LSD/ASD, I will understand. But, believe me, I had to 
> > try and reach out to you in order to remind myself that we were 
> > once 'as the fingers of one hand'. 
> > 
> > With warm and fraternal regards to you and Angela,
> > 
> > Pedro
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