Theos-Talk Archives (August 2006 Message tt00542)

I agree - it's nice to be discerning.  But keep in mind that they do
not need billions of slaves and they do plan on killing the vast
majority of us through wars, famine, poisoned food and water, mind
altering drugs which makes mothers kill their own babies and children
killing entire families, vaccines - where else did they hide HIV, if
not in the Hepatitis-B vaccines and Polio vaccines!  Certainly, they
tell us that a green monkey spread AIDS via a bite, and we are
expected to beleive that HIV cannot be spread by saliva.  Right. Theyt
also say that mosquitoes cannot transmit HIV. another HUGE lie.  How
can the AMA be so retarded unless Rockefeller planned this?   If
mosquitos dod not transmit HIV, than why doesn't doctors just copy the
filtering method as the method used to filter blood via the MOSQUITO?  
Obviously, the mosquito cannot filter HIV as HIV is far too tiny - HIV
also is tiny enough to fit through the naturally occuring holes in
condoms - and they just happen to foget to tell us this also!  Right!
 Also, AIDS is spreading from the cities into the jungles..... and not
from the jungles into the cities and broke out exactly in the
locations where the Red Cross began vaccinating the Homosexuals in NY
City and SAN FRAN and the black population in the African continent.   

Ebola = kills too fast and not controllable  
AIDS = controllable but kills too slow

Gee, I wonder why they had a hard time using their older gene specific
virus'?  May be because those Elites might just have some Arabic or
African blood in them, afterall, eh?  Mayhaps, the only good part..LOL!  

They only need so many slaves to serve them and if you doubt
this consider what they teach in Universities today.  They teach
youngsters to hate themselves by reminding them that they are the
reason for Global warming (another lie) and that it is a sad fact when
Dr. Pianka (Dr. Death) gave his wonderful speech at the University in
Texas, on how a disease worse than Ebola should be used to kill us all
off recieved accpetance, standing ovations and ONLY ALex Jones and
others actually took it upon themselvesto contact the FBI and have Dr.
Pianka arrested for "promoting genocide".  The elites love
intelectual-dumbs like this professor and use him to assist them in
brinwashing our young.  

Cass, did you know that on some University campus' a woman walking
peacefully with her 3 lovely children are approahed by mobs/students
of so-called environmentalists who actually had the brazen arrogance
and gall to tell her that she HAS TOO MANY KIDS!  I mean let's get
real - who do you think teaches our students crap like this - Islamic
Mullahs?  

Have you noticed all the outsourcing of jobs lately?  I don't know
about you but if slave labour is so expensive than how come I CANNOT
OOMPETE against Chinese slaves?  When Bill Joy (one of the good guy
multi-billionares) and CEO of Sun Micro-systems wrote his article
about the the Future of Man and why huamns are no longer needed for
labour, he referred to to ELITE having the advanced technology to  
do away with the vast majority of us "cannon fodder" to sustain
themselves.  Here is a multi-billionare who may be "greedy" but does
not want to die.  They killed CEO's and multi-millionares in the WTC
explosions, now Cass.....what do you think they might be willing to do
to us?

Logos Student  
 
 

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Cass Silva <silva_cass@...> wrote:
>
> Before one can form an opinion, all sides of the argument must be
looked at.  This has nothing to do with hating Muslims/Islam but in
discernment.  Enslaving the whole world - give me a break. Do you
realise it costs more to keep a person  enslaved.  Just heard today on
CNN that the Iraki widows, if lucky enough to get it, receive $60 a
month to keep their families going, with no guarantee that the $60 is
coming every month.
> 
> Cass
> 
> logos_student2000 <logos_student2000@...> wrote:                   
              I've seen this video months ago somewhere else.  This
lady wants 
>  freedom from Shiara law and I don't blame her.  These Islamists have 
>  completely basterdised the true meaning of Islam!
>  
>  On the other hand, I heard her mentioning the false 2 choices 
>  between radical Islam and demon-cracy.  Both are wrong; both are 
>  false choices.  Although, she may prefer the Western World (as do I) 
>  over Shaira law, I donpt think she knows what she's saying when she 
>  claims its about Islam being in the past and America being in the 
>  future.  
>  
>  If the Fabians/Globalists/zionists/Jesuits have it their way and 
>  they destroy the Islamic world, they will be in a position to 
>  enslave the entire globe with no resistance.  This is why they 
>  divide the Jews, Christians ansd Muslims up - first it was 
>  Communists who were evil and now it's Islamo-fascists who are evil.  
>  The Islamic world certainly have issues but "fascist" is certainly 
>  not what they are!  
>  
>  Today, we have 2 parents working, kids being raised by Fox news and 
>  sit-coms - basically by the state, the families cannot afford trips 
>  to Florida every uyear.  So what happened?  Well, let me tell you:
>  
>  Rockefeller supported the womans worker movement ONLY because he 
>  felt that 50% of the populace (the woman who were at home raising 
>  strong families) were not paying income tax!  in the 1950's most 
>  American families could have only the man of the house working, the 
>  wife stays home and raisies the children, visits her neibours etc, 
>  and the family had 2 cars, could afford trips to Florida every year 
>  and had a house paid off with a Pension fund they could count on.  
>  
>  They fund Homosexuality to destroy the family, not to assist people 
>  who are gay, they fund environmental movemets to restrict your 
>  freedom to food and gas and how much airconditioning to use.  They 
>  support the Womans worker movement not to allow woamns to work but 
>  to get income tax and help destroy the family.  
>  
>  This lady in the video mentioned a clash of civ's. I strongly 
>  disagree with her!  Islamic nations do not support fractional 
>  reserve banking which destroys nations and that is a good thing. 
>  They don't fluorinate their waters, they don't hide Kosher labels 
>  on products so that 98% of the public (who do not want Kosher) have 
>  to pick up the charge.  No sir, they actually labal their Halal 
>  clearly - unlike Kosher.  They treat their slaves better than our 
>  leaders treat us.  They don't create killer diseases, they don't put 
>  cancer virus' in any vaccines because they don;t usually bother 
>  pushing any vaccines.  And at least they don't write SICK DISGUSTING 
>  books like Prince Phillip did which was titled "If I were an animal" 
>  (I beleive) which in it he states how he wants to re-incarnate as a 
>  deadly virus and exterminate 95% of the total world populace to thus 
>  bring us back into balance with nature.  Insane?  
>  
>  These are our leaders folks and they really don't need all us 
>  useless eaters when they can get by with a few million slaves - 
>  trust me, abortion and the Club of Rome are in perfect harmony 
>  because murdering children daily is ok, to prevent too many useless 
>  eaters but Africa had too many babies and so AIDS and EBOLA just 
>  happen to occur........RIGHT.  And their vaccinations prgrams are 
>  nothing less than a mass extermiantion program and don't ask me, ask 
>  the people in the African nations!     
>  
>  Hope you all enjoy hating Islam.  But replacing a corrupted form 
>  of Allah worship with JAhve is not going to solve anything.   
>  
>  --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Cass Silva <silva_cass@> wrote:
>  >
>  > Subject: Al Jazeera television
>  >       
>  >  Here is a powerful and amazing statement on Al Jazeera 
>  television.  The woman is Wafa Sultan, an Arab-American psychologist 
>  from Los  Angeles. I would suggest watching it ASAP because I don't 
>  know how  
>  > long the link will be active, (put this site in your address  
>  bar).  
>  >   
>  >  http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm.asp?ai=214&ar=1050wmv&ak=null
>  > 
>  > 
>  > leonmaurer@ wrote:                                  Dallas, 
>  scribe, et al,
>  >  
>  >  Please accept my original answers to Scribe's question as being 
>  with respect 
>  >  to the physical evolutionary changes that would be obvious from 
>  a "Darwinist" 
>  >  or scientific materialist's point of view -- which denies the 
>  existence of the 
>  >  higher order astral and mental fields separate from (but 
>  connected 
>  >  metaphysically to) the physical brain itself.
>  >  
>  >  Apparently, then, with respect to Dallas' references to the 
>  theosophical 
>  >  truths -- we could say that Man's expanded brain might come 
>  first -- since the 
>  >  "lighting up of Manas" or mind of the former animal-man would 
>  induce thought, 
>  >  which would excite the brain's neurons and cause the cerebellum 
>  to expand and 
>  >  grow accordingly.   
>  >  
>  >  This new thinking ability, both rational and intuitive, would, in 
>  turn, 
>  >  generate new ideas that would eventually require the capability 
>  for producing 
>  >  imagined   and mentally planned artifacts such as clothing, 
>  weapons, and shelters 
>  >  that would be inspired by Man's physical needs for surviving in a 
>  hostile world 
>  >  -- further accelerating the growth of the cerebellum.   
>  >  
>  >  Thus, the evolutionary changes due to mental thought imagery that 
>  would aid 
>  >  in the "survival of the fittest" through the use of these 
>  artifacts, would 
>  >  also, through such focussed visualizations and willful intent, 
>  transform the 
>  >  astral field energies into magnetic holograph images that would 
>  start attracting 
>  >  physical matter so as to form the necessary changes in the 
>  physical form -- such 
>  >  as the opposed thumb necessary for grasping and making tools to 
>  use in making 
>  >  those artifacts. 
>  >  
>  >  (Incidentally, this manner of evolutionary change and growth -- 
>  since it is 
>  >  analogous and   corresponding to the genesis of the universe from 
>  the absolute 
>  >  zero-point "singularity" -- may answer the question," Which came 
>  first, the 
>  >  chicken or the egg.":-)
>  >  
>  >  The encoding of these changes in the surviving DNA would then 
>  spread through 
>  >  the human population coenergetically (i.e., by inductive 
>  resonance processes) 
>  >  by means of the "morphogenetic fields," such as those described 
>  by Ruppert Sh
>  >  eldrake -- which would be analogous to the higher order, 
>  coadunate but not 
>  >  consubstantial coenergetic fields of the scientifically 
>  consistent ABC theory that 
>  >  is based on the identical theosophical metaphysics described in 
>  the book of 
>  >  Dzyan and outlined in the Secret Doctrine.
>  >  
>  >  Hope this adds some additional clarity to the way evolution works.
>  >  
>  >  Lenny 
>  >  
>  >  In a message dated 8/16/06 11:32:46 AM, dalval14@ writes:
>  >  
>  >  > 8/16/2006 5:40 AM
>  >  > 
>  >  > Friends:
>  >  > 
>  >  > May I observe in regard to your discussion?
>  >  > 
>  >  > As I see it:  I quote from what you write :
>  >  > 
>  >  > If the "the most important physical change that distinguishes 
>  Man from
>  >  > the animals was the development of the opposed thumb. " is 
>  chosen as a
>  >  > physical criterion, then that unique power or intelligence, or 
>  consciousness
>  >  > which controls and directs the "opposed thumb" ought to be 
>  identified and
>  >  > investigated.  How and where does it arise.? Who guides it?  
>  If "I" am the
>  >  > perceiver and director -- then I am always responsible -- and I 
>  weave my
>  >  > personal Karma from all the choices made in the past, and being 
>  made now by
>  >  > an act of my will.  When was this change to conscious 
>  perception and the
>  >  > potentiality for a responsive choice started for we -- who are 
>  the MANASIC
>  >  > MONADS ?  THEOSOPHY calls it "The LIGHTING UP OF MANAS."   [ 
>  Quotes:
>  >  > 
>  >  > 
>  >  > "...the Manasa Devas who endowed man with the consciousness of 
>  his immortal
>  >  > soul:  that consciousness which hinders man "from foreseeing 
>  death," and
>  >  > makes him know he is immortal.
>  >  > ( Fn.: --  The monad of the animal is as immortal as that of 
>  man, yet the
>  >  > brute knows nothing of this;  it lives an animal life of 
>  sensation just as
>  >  > the first human would have lived, when attaining physical 
>  development in the
>  >  > Third Race, had it not been for the Agnishwatta, and the Manasa 
>  Pitris.")
>  >  > [Myth of Prometheus, further explained.]        SD II 525
>  >  > 
>  >  > 
>  >  > "Every form on earth and every speck (atom) in Space strives in 
>  its efforts
>  >  > towards self-formation to follow the model placed for it in 
>  the "Heavenly
>  >  > Man"...Its [atom's] involution and evolution, its external and 
>  internal
>  >  > growth and development, have all one and the same object--man;  
>  man is the
>  >  > highest physical and ultimate form on this earth;  the MONAD in 
>  the absolute
>  >  > totality and awakened condition--as the culmination of the 
>  divine
>  >  > incarnations on Earth."        S D I 183
>  >  > 
>  >  > 
>  >  > "...a law inexorable, by which man lifts himself by degrees 
>  from the state
>  >  > of a beast to the glory of a God. The rapidity with which this 
>  is done is
>  >  > different with every living soul;  and the wretches who hug the 
>  primitive
>  >  > task master,  misery, choose to go slowly through the       
>  tread-mill
>  >  > course which may give them innumerable lives of physical 
>  sensation-- whether
>  >  > pleasant or painful, well-beloved because tangible to the very 
>  lowest
>  >  > senses.  The Theosophist
>  >  > who desires to enter upon occultism takes some of Nature's 
>  privileges into
>  >  > his own hands, by that very wish, and soon discovers that 
>  experiences come
>  >  > to him with double quick rapidity.  His business is then to 
>  recognize that
>  >  > he is under--to him--new and swifter law of Development, and to 
>  snatch at
>  >  > the lessons that come to him...He sees that it takes a very 
>  wise man to do
>  >  > good works without danger of doing incalculable harm.  A highly 
>  developed
>  >  > adept in life may grasp the nettle, and by his great intuitive 
>  powers, know
>  >  > whom to relieve from pain and whom to leave in the mire that is 
>  their best
>  >  > teacher...None of us know the darkness which lurks in the 
>  depths of our own
>  >  > being until some strange and unfamiliar experience rouses the 
>  whole being
>  >  > into action...The ignorant doing of good works may be vitally 
>  injurious...it
>  >  > is not the spirit of self-sacrifice, or of devotion, or of 
>  desire to help
>  >  > that is lacking, but the strength to acquire knowledge and 
>  power and
>  >  > intuition, so that the deeds done shall really be worthy of the
>  >  > "Buddha-Christ" spirit."          HPB ART, I, p.76-7
>  >  > 
>  >  > 
>  >  > "The whole individuality is centred in the three middle 
>  Principles or third
>  >  > (MANAS), and fifth (ASTRAL BODY) principles.  During earthly 
>  life it is all
>  >  > in the fourth (KAMA-MANAS), the center of energy, volition--
>  will...the
>  >  > individuality survives...to run its seven-fold and upward 
>  course [ it ] has
>  >  > to assimilate to itself the eternal-life power residing but in 
>  the seventh
>  >  > (ATMA), and then blend the three (4th, 5th & 7th) into one--the 
>  6th
>  >  > (BUDDHI).  Those who succeed in doing so become Buddhas, Dhyan 
>  Chohans,
>  >  > etc...  The chief object of our struggle and initiations is to 
>  achieve this
>  >  > union while yet on this earth."    M L  (Barker), pp. 77-8
>  >  > 
>  >  > 
>  >  > "...unless the higher Self or Ego gravitates towards its Sun--
>  the Monad--the
>  >  > lower Ego, or personal Self, will have the upper hand in every 
>  case.  For it
>  >  > is this Ego, with its fierce selfishness and animal desire to 
>  live a
>  >  > Senseless life (Tanha), which is the "maker of the tabernacle," 
>  as Buddha
>  >  > calls it in Dhammapada..."     SD II 110
>  >  > 
>  >  > 
>  >  > "...[the Agnishwatta Pitris] were destined to incarnate as the 
>  Egos of the
>  >  > forthcoming crop of Mankind.  The human Ego is neither Atman 
>  nor Buddhi, but
>  >  > the higher Manas:  the intellectual fruition and the 
>  efflorescence of the
>  >  > intellectual self-conscious Egotism--in the higher spiritual 
>  sense.  The
>  >  > ancient works refer to it as Karana Sarira on the plane of the 
>  Sutratma,
>  >  > which is the golden thread on which, like beads, the various 
>  personalities
>  >  > of this higher Ego are strung...these beings were RETURNING 
>  NIRVANEES, from
>  >  > preceding Maha-Manvantaras--ages of incalculable 
>  duration..."        S D
>  >  > II 79
>  >  > 
>  >  > 
>  >  > "...the "Ego" in man is a monad that has gathered to itself 
>  innumerable
>  >  > experiences through aeons of time, slowly unfolding its latent 
>  potencies
>  >  > through plane after plane of matter.  It is hence called 
>  the "eternal
>  >  > pilgrim."
>  >  > 
>  >  > The Manasic, or mind principle, is cosmic and universal.  It is 
>  the creator
>  >  > of all forms, and the basis of all law in nature.  Not so with
>  >  > consciousness.  Consciousness is a condition of the monad as a 
>  result of
>  >  > embodiment in matter and the dwelling in a physical form.
>  >  > Self-consciousness, which from the animal plane looking upward 
>  is the
>  >  > beginning of perfection, from the divine plane looking 
>  downwards is the
>  >  > perfection of selfishness and the curse of separateness.  it is 
>  the "world
>  >  > of illusion" that man has created for himself.  "Maya is the 
>  perceptive
>  >  > faculty of every Ego which considers itself a Unit, separate 
>  from and
>  >  > independent of the One Infinite and Eternal Sat or 'be-ness'," 
>  (SD I 329)
>  >  > The "eternal pilgrim" must therefore mount higher, and flee 
>  from the plane
>  >  > of self-consciousness it has struggled so hard to reach."    
>  WQJ  Art I
>  >  > p. 29
>  >  > 
>  >  > 
>  >  > ". man's spirit while not individual per se, yet preserves its 
>  distinct
>  >  > individuality in Paranirvana, owing to the accumulation in it 
>  of the
>  >  > aggregates, or skandhas that have survived after each death, 
>  from the
>  >  > highest faculties of the Manas. 
>  >  > 
>  >  > The most spiritual--i.e., the highest and divinest aspirations 
>  of every
>  >  > personality follow Buddhi and the Seventh Principle into 
>  Devachan (Swarga)
>  >  > after the death of the Monad...the individuality of the spirit-
>  soul...is
>  >  > preserved to the end of the great cycle (Maha-Manwantara) when 
>  each Ego
>  >  > enters Paranirvana, or is merged in Parabrahm...however long 
>  the "night of
>  >  > Brahma" or even the Universal Pralaya...yet, when it ends, the 
>  same
>  >  > individual Divine Monad resumes its majestic path of evolution, 
>  though on a
>  >  > higher, hundredfold perfected and more pure chain of earths 
>  (266) than
>  >  > before, and brings with it all the essence of compound 
>  spiritualities from
>  >  > its previous countless rebirths."    HPB ARTICLES  III  265-6
>  >  > 
>  >  > 
>  >  > 
>  >  > "... SPIRITUAL SOUL OR BUDDHI, in close union with Manas, the
>  >  > mind-principle, without which it is no Ego at all, but only the 
>  Atmic
>  >  > Vehicle. (passive agent)..."Buddhi becomes conscious by the 
>  accretions it
>  >  > gets from Manas after every new incarnation an death of 
>  man."    (SD I 244)
>  >  > [see HPB Art. III, 265 ]    Key p. 176
>  >  > 
>  >  > 
>  >  > "BUDDHI...The faculty of cognizing the channel through which 
>  divine
>  >  > knowledge reaches the Ego, the discernment of good and 
>  evil, "divine
>  >  > consciousness,"  "Spiritual Soul,"  the vehicle of Atma."  SD I 
>  xix
>  >  > [see also SD I 17 119, 244, 570, 453;  Key 175-6]    
>  >  > 
>  >  > 
>  >  > "OUR CONSCIOUSNESS IS ONE AND NOT MANY, nor different from other
>  >  > consciousness.  It is not waking consciousness, sleeping 
>  consciousness, or
>  >  > any other but consciousness itself... the consciousness of each 
>  person is
>  >  > the Witness or Spectator of the actions and experiences of 
>  every state we
>  >  > are in or pass through.  It therefore follows that the waking 
>  condition of
>  >  > the mind is not separate consciousness. 
>  >  > 
>  >  > The one consciousness pierces up and down through all the 
>  states or planes
>  >  > of Being, and serves to uphold the memory...of each state's 
>  experiences."
>  >  > Gita Notes, p. 98-9
>  >  > 
>  >  > ----------------------------------------
>  >  > 
>  >  > The "opposed thumb" is a phenomenon of the mental idea of 
>  holding and
>  >  > manipulating; and to this a "purpose" has to be identified at 
>  the root of
>  >  > this or any action.  The quality of any "purpose" would depend 
>  on whether it
>  >  > is "SELFISH" or "UNSELFISH." 
>  >  > 
>  >  > The MIND coupled with our Kamic (desires and passions) nature 
>  makes this
>  >  > possible.  [The "animals" have the faculty, at their stage of 
>  progress /
>  >  > evolution, of "instinct" but not of that continued identity we 
>  call mind (or
>  >  > MANAS). [It is the MANAS that reincarnates.  -- see KEY TO 
>  THEOSOPHY (HPB),
>  >  > some of the advanced individual animal MONADS, HPB states, had 
>  reached the
>  >  > stage where MANAS could be lit up. 
>  >  > 
>  >  > The PURPOSE of such (or of any human action adds the MORAL 
>  FACTOR.  Mankind
>  >  > as a whole is in the stage / plane of MIND DEVELOPMENT --  see 
>  PATANJALI'S
>  >  > YOGA SUTRAS.  It is individualized.  See tables of "human 
>  principles" in KEY
>  >  > TO THEOSOPHY (HPB) at pp. 91-2, 135-6, 195-6 and the Intervening
>  >  > explanations of the entire process and purpose of  evolution -- 
>  where the
>  >  > '"PHYSICAL" is shown  to be powered by the karmic motives and 
>  our present
>  >  > choices / will.  These are resident and dominant in the 
>  principles of Kama
>  >  > and Mind  (Kama and Manas).
>  >  > 
>  >  > The "moral factor is divisible into the "virtues"  which are 
>  dual: SELFISH
>  >  > and UNSELFISH, and these distinguish BROTHERHOOD and care for 
>  others, or the
>  >  > reverse. This in turn invokes not only the monadic, individual 
>  KARMA, but
>  >  > affects the whole Universe  (composed of  innumerable 
>  sensitive "life-atoms"
>  >  > or MONADS. 
>  >  > 
>  >  > We are never "alone."  [All our personal thoughts, feelings and 
>  acts are
>  >  > indelibly recorded by the Lipika on the tablets of the Akasa.] 
>  But we are
>  >  > surrounded with innumerable living MONADS -- each at their own 
>  stage of
>  >  > self-development and progress, and all advance (each is 
>  affected by other
>  >  > MONADS) individually towards the common central and ultimate 
>  Goal: Supreme
>  >  > PERFECTION in Wisdom and "wise action." (see BHAGAVAD GITA  
>  (Krishna)  for a
>  >  > treatise on this.)
>  >  > 
>  >  > Best wishes
>  >  > 
>  >  > Dallas
>  >  > 
>  >  > -----------------------------
>  >  > 
>  >  > 
>  >  > 
>  >  > -----Original Message-----
>  >  > From: Scribe
>  >  > Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 7:28 PM
>  >  > Subject: Re: Difference between humans and animals?
>  >  > 
>  >  > Leonardo,
>  >  > 
>  >  > Thanks so much, that was just great, just the kind of 
>  information I wanted.
>  >  > And in addition you also hit the nail on the head with problems 
>  the ID ers
>  >  > have with any sort of "proof" that would satisfy their critics.
>  >  > 
>  >  > Again, "right on"--
>  >  > 
>  >  > Best Regards,
>  >  > Don Ridgway
>  >  > "scribe"
>  >  > 
>  >  > 
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