Theos-Talk Archives (August 2006 Message tt00538)

Excellent points Robert, and insightful advice.
Cheers
Cass

Robert Bruce MacDonald <robert.b.macdonald@hotmail.com> wrote:                                  Friends,
 
 A few thoughts on the discussion of the last few weeks.
 
 Whereas HPB did not talk on politics and went out of her way to avoid it, 
 she did speak on occassion on the morality of certain national or 
 international incidents.
 
 Earlier, I thought it would be instructive to look at dugpas, who they were 
 and how they operated.  From a study of theosophy it becomes clear that 95% 
 of humanity does not bother thinking for themselves, they are followers.  
 They are also the younger brothers of the 5% who have awakened.  Now, 
 whether they be Moslem, Jew, Hindu, Christian, etc., they simply follow the 
 principles and guidance of their religious and political leaders.  The 
 dugpa, like the White Brother, does not want to incur Karma for his actions. 
   He wants the rest of humanity to voluntarily hand over their rights (their 
 will) to him so that he can act on their behalf for his own selfish gains.  
 Democracy's lend themselves very well for this type of handing over of 
 power.  In the West one's education, health, access to the resources of the 
 land, access to new technologies, etc. have all been handed over to 
 governments in the interest of profit and power for the special few.
 
 As theosophists and as moral human beings we have to keep our eye on what is 
   moral; the political and the religious are distractions.  In the video 
 Cass linked, the one aspect of truth that came through is that this 
 interpretation of Islam put forward by some mullahs where the faithful are 
 instructed to convert the rest of humanity by the sword if necessary, is 
 immoral.  The Christian materialization of the Christos is immoral as they 
 can now blame the Jews for the death of Christ and it justifies them doing 
 all sorts of evil in trying to convert humanity to Christianity in order to 
 save their souls.  The Jewish materialization of the symbols of Jeruselam 
 and Israel have given rise to Zionism and the evil injustices perpetrated 
 upon the peoples of the Middle East for over 50 years.  The 95% have to be 
 awakened to the evils of religions, this cannot go on.
 
 The destruction of Lebanon was a moral crime that resulted in the mass 
 murder of far too many Lebanese.  Soldiers fighting with soldiers is war.  
 Soldiers targeting and killing unarmed civilians is murder.  It is immoral.  
 Whether Israeli or Lebanese, the civilian population should not have been 
 involved in this.
 
 Anyone who is distracted by any of the propoganda coming out of this 
 conflict needs to give their head a shake.  Wars today are not fought on 
 principle, they are fought with the objective of setting up the next war.  
 If anyone thinks that the sick minds behind this war did not obtain their 
 objectives, they are sadly mistaken.  The few who were in the know on both 
 sides got exactly what they wanted.   The only people who lost were the 
 civilians.
 
 The civilians should be the people who are championed by theosophists, not 
 the temporary churches of Christianity, Islam, Judaism, etc.  These will be 
 gone before too long.  Similarly, the states of Israel, Lebanon, and the 
 rest, they will not last forever.  They too will pass.  Surely, this is a 
 truth that theosophists understand?
 
 Logos is concerned about unmasking these Illuminati.  Why? What does it 
 matter who they are?   There will always be dugpas.  Our goal is not to 
 destroy them, our goal is to work to help lift humanity so that it no longer 
 falls prey to these types of minds.  The problem with researching shadows is 
 that there is much more disinformation than there is accurate information.  
 Even if there is a Sabatean or Frankist faction among the Jews working with 
 the Vatican and others, intent on destroying all Jews, who would believe it? 
   The best and surest way of waking people is to point to the immoral acts 
 done in the name of the state or in the name of religion.  Most people have 
 a sense of morality that transcends their beliefs.  It is to that which we 
 have to appeal.  Many Jews and Lebanese are questioning the latest war, 
 stear the discussion towards the moral rather than which side is right or 
 wrong.  There is so much disinformation out there, the worst of it 
 propogated on the nightly news, that everyone is going to have a different 
 understanding of history.  Frank and Carlos have very different 
 understandings of history.  Both are responding according to their 
 understanding and integrity with the hope of making things better.  Neither 
 is going to be re-eductated historically; but if they wanted, I think they 
 could come to an agreement at a moral level.  If Christian, Jew, Hindu, and 
 Moslem understood they are all one in spirit, if they learned to trust one 
 another, conflict would be reduced significantly.   People have to learn to 
 act morally rather than continue to rely on the political or religious 
 excuse for bad behavior.
 
 Bruce
 
 __________________________________________________________
 Play Q6 for your chance to WIN great prizes.  
 http://q6trivia.imagine-live.com/enca/landing
 
 
     
                       

 			
---------------------------------
Do you Yahoo!?
 Everyone is raving about the  all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]