Theos-Talk Archives (August 2006 Message tt00346)

Perry,  Marie, Friends, 


Perry's story in the Adyar TS in Australia has been  more or less the story of many members of the Adyar TS,  since 1900 and around the world.   

With  these words I am not saying or implying that only Adyar has limitations, nor that Adyar has not positive aspects. 

In Brazil, Perry's experience  has been occurring under different forms for decades with generations of students and workers. 

In the early 1970s, for instance, Mr. Murillo Nunes de Azevedo was the President of the Adyar TS in Brazil. 

He published in the national magazine "O Teosofista" an article (not by himself) stating that the Buddha, as a soul,  was more evolved than Christ, as a soul. 

Regardless of the technical aspects implied, that simple truth (Buddha's Soul is the Most evolved in our Humanity) caused a incredible revolt  in ritualistic neochristian/neomasonic  quarters -- so much so that Mr. Murillo nearly had to resign the national presidency. "How come anyone could dare say that there is another soul more evolved than Christ", etc.  

Murillo did not resign; but  his presidency was not the same any longer;  he lost his motivation. 

As I have a vast set of historical archives of the theosophical movement in Brazil, handed over to me by a past national president (Mr. Brito Pinto) and by other historical theosophical families in Brazil (Mr. Armando Salles)  I do have all the documents and texts of this episode.  Incredible stuff indeed! 

(A recurrent episode which 'reincarnated' with other theosophical workers in Brazil in more recent decades...) 

This is only an example among others -- an example involving a President.

In England, Geoffrey Farthing (a great student who died a couple of years ago) also had to face something broadly similar while he was President (National Secretary), as he told me  in an written interview. 

His interview is a fascinating publishable document which I want to share with you near the next anniversary of his birth, early December.

So, Perry's story is the story of many people.  He is not alone in that.  :)


Yet -- the Adyar Society  has also many positive aspects and I am sure it can improve and correct its mistakes.  

If Adyar members do that - and some of them are already doing so -- all of the movement will gain a lot from it. 



Best regards,   Carlos. 







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Data:Wed, 9 Aug 2006 16:13:53 EDT

Assunto:Re: Theos-World Re: PERRY BARRED FROM ADYAR TS AND THE TRUCE ON THEOSTALK

> Perry, I most certainly do not concur with the Australian Section's 
> decision to deny you membership!
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> I have no idea why they would be so officious and patently selective. I have 
> no idea why your view and/or opinions would not stand the test of "There is 
> no religion higher than truth." Perhaps they fully know that "truth" is simply 
> another word for "TSA's opinion", and not the real function of Adyar's TS 
> in the 21st Century.
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> Too bad, isn't it? But I still believe that the Adyar TS will, in time, 
> correct themselves, as we all do, and adhere to higher principles and values. In 
> the meantime, they do much to promulgate theosophy, and that is crucial in 
> today's world, I believe.
> 
> And I value Theos-Talk for what it does in helping to educate the world and 
> its help in promulgating theosophy and unity among the different societies.
> 
> Marie
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> Hello Marie,
> Thanks for your comments !
> Since 2004 I have been posting here at theos-talk you can read my 
> first posting below.
> _http://groups.http://grohttp://grouphttp://groupshttp:_ 
> (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theos-talk/message/17453) 
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> I actually had resigned from the TS (I resigned in 2001 I think) of 
> my own accord and was trying to raise some issues I had with the 
> Adyar TS and create dialogue on these here at theos talk.
> 
> To cut a long story short I reached a point where I thought that 
> perhaps I may rejoin the Society despite my issues with the TS and do 
> what ever work I could within it.
> 
> However earlier this year my application to re-applying for 
> membership was rejected by National Section in Australia unanimously
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> I was invited to re-apply for membership in twelve months "if you 
> find that you have a genuine compatibility with the ethos, official 
> statements and broad scope of the teachings of the TS with its 
> headquarters at Adyar".
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> This implied that I didn't a `compatibility with the ethos, official 
> statements and broad scope of the teachings of the TS with its 
> headquarters at Adyar' and had to acquire one.
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> I suppose you'd have to read my postings to see if you concur with 
> the decission or not.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Perry
> 
> --- In _theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_ (mailto:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com) , 
> MarieMAJ41@., Marie
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> > Perry, could you elaborate a bit about your "expulsion" from the 
> Adyar TS? 
> > When, why, etc. Of course, if you do not wish to dredge it up, I do 
> understand. 
> > But if it was a matter of censorship, was it under Algeo's reign?
> > 
> > I can hardly believe that I am affiliated with a society that has 
> so little 
> > tolerance for freedom of thought and expression. But I should have 
> know when I 
> > found that books in the Library were taken from the shelves, or 
> not put on 
> > at all. All this was done under the guise of placing the books 
> into "archives" 
> > to which almost noone had access without obtaining permission, 
> from you 
> > guessed it, the power that be.
> > 
> > Marie
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