Theos-Talk Archives (August 2006 Message tt00298)

Marie,

I fail to see why any member of Theos-talk would have to explain the process of preparing  and posting things in Theos-talk.  I really have other things to do with the time I have available. I hope you can understand that. 

Regards,  Carlos. 




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Data:Mon, 7 Aug 2006 20:08:54 EDT

Assunto:Re: Theos-World Leadbeater in Brazil?

> Carlos, below is given text that you wrote under 2 subject headers:
> "Leadbeater in Brazil?" and "PEDRO, C.W.L. & BRAZIL" except, in the 2nd 
> subject line your salutation reads: Dear Pedro, Gregory and Theos-talk Friends. 
> The reason I am bringing this up again? I am wondering why this is done? The 
> same message, repeated with a different subject line? I asked this question 
> before, and you declined to answer under the auspices of the so-called TRUCE. 
> In the spirit of open communication, and also under the auspices of the same 
> TRUCE, I respectfully ask you this again. Thank you, Carlos.
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> Dear Gregory, Dear Friends, 
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> Thanks to Gregory. I did some investigation about that. 
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> There was no such thing as the violent revolt and other events in Brazil as 
> described by Leadbeater in the text you discuss. 
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> Brazilian indigenous peoples (as also black people) here were and are 
> peaceful and not violent at all. 
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> To formalize that, I got the testimony of a Historian -- and bibliography 
> also clarifies that. 
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> This is one of the things already investigated by me and which I still have 
> to put into English and bring here. 
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> I wrote to Ms. Joy Mills in December 1999 and among other topics confronted 
> her with these facts and asked her opinion. She then wrote to me considering 
> it an established fact that Leadbeater never came to Brazil. And Joy referred 
> to Tillett's book without naming it. Yet she apparently wanted me to remain 
> silent about the facts. That I did not do. 
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> The response to the fact that Leadbeater never came to Brazil, from other 
> Adyar TS leaders (in Brazil and elswhere), has been one of pure DENIAL. They 
> simply avoid the subject so far. 
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> I would like them to see and realize that no theosophical institution, 
> corporation or group can benefit from denying facts. 
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> In the long run, legitimate institutions can only benefit from searching for 
> truth and accepting events as they are. 
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> I say this because true peace -- or a lasting truce in the movement -- 
> cannot be separated from Ethics, Justice or Truthfulness. 
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> We may well suffer from a thousand illusions; but there must be a mutual 
> permission to be sincere and to share our views about truth, as this is an 
> essential part of any learning process. 
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> Of course, all of the groups in the movement have made and still make 
> mistakes, so it is not an exercise of finger-pointing. It is but the practice of 
> opening one's mind and sharing one's thoughts. 
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> Perhaps Pedro Oliveira and others can help us get to another and better 
> level of dialogue. 
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> I am reasonably confident about that. 
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> Hopeful regards, Carlos. 
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