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Re: Theos-World JOHNSON, FREUD, JUNG & HPB

Aug 01, 2006 02:18 PM
by Bill Meredith


Carlos, I understand what you are saying. I do not dispute the existence of the Theosophical Movement, although I do dispute its value to 21st century theosophy as it is currently configured.

Still, so long as you remain clear that it is the Movement that you are protecting, then I have no disagreement with you. When you erroneously equate the Movement with the perennial wisdom itself then I plan to issue corrective actions. I am not a Movementist. I do not follow the rules of the Movement regarding acceptable behavior or approved reading materials.

As far as I can tell, between you and Daniel, it is overwhelmingly you that gets morally offended because people do not entirely agree with you.
peace,

bill



carlosaveline wrote:

Friends,

An interesting view by Bill, below.

The fact is that there is a Theosophical Movement, with its aims, its teachings, and its goals. Facts are facts.

Now, to circulate inside the movement the "thesis" that HPB invented the
Masters and therefore was a fraud is just like going into the Psychoanalytical Society and expecting to publish books with their support saying that Freud was a fake. Or like going into the Junguian circles and say that Carl Gustav Jung plagiarized all his view of Psychology. Or going into Astronomical/Astrophysical circles, circulating the idea that the Eath is flat and it is also the center of the universe, and then get mortally offended because people do not entirely agree with you.

Regards, Carlos.

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Data:Tue, 01 Aug 2006 16:39:21 -0400

Assunto:Re: Theos-World THE DOUBLE FACE

> Friends,
>
> I see this as the crux of the issue. KPJ is not a Movementist. Neither
> am I. In later years, Johnson, who was an earnest student of theosophy
> finally refused to even classify himself as a theosophist in an effort
> to free himself from the inflexible mindset of Movementology.
>
> What Carlos asks below is only a valid question for Movementists "INSIDE
> the movement". Johnson's books, Algeo's books, Caldwell books, and a
> host of others including all the Movement books are easily assimilated
> into theosophy -- the broader universal theosophy that harmonizes all
> the ripples in the undercurrent of the one life as easily as rain falls
> from the heavens. But, these books, and apparently these people, are
> not so easily assimilated into the Movement, because the Movement is a
> 19th century phenomenon whose members apparently hold it in higher
> regard than they do the perennial wisdom itself.
>
>
> peace,
>
> bill
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> carlosaveline wrote:
> >
> > Dear Friends,
> >
> > K. Paul Johnson writes in Daniel Caldwell's website (see Daniel's
> > quotation below):
> >
> > "When HPB writes about Master M in a letter or an article, her
> > reference is actually to a composite character she created."
> >
> > Yes. But who opened room INSIDE the movement for such obviously
> > erroneous views , except John Algeo and Daniel Caldwell himself?
> >
> > This is the double-face policy.
> >
> > Regards, Carlos.
> >
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> > Data:Tue, 01 Aug 2006 19:48:07 -0000
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> > Assunto:Theos-World "I view M. as a composite character...."
> >
> > > "I view M. as a composite character...."
> > >
> > > see:
> > >
> > > http://blavatskyarchives.com/johnsonmcomposite.htm <http://blavatskyarchives.com/johnsonmcomposite.htm>
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> > >
> > > Daniel
> > > http://hpb.cc
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