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Re: Perry on: Carlos on "the authentic edition of the 'Secret Doctrine'

Jul 19, 2006 06:44 PM
by plcoles1


Thanks Daniel that basically answers my question.
I was refering to the print ed.

Cheers

Perry

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "danielhcaldwell" 
<danielhcaldwell@...> wrote:
>
> Perry,
> 
> You write:
> 
> "I use the TUP edition of the SD is that edition free of editing?"
> 
> Do you mean the PRINT edition of the SD issued by TUP in 1988 or 
the 
> ONLINE ed.?
> 
> In 1988 TUP published in 2 volumes a photographic facsimile of the 
> 1888 ed. of SD.  So yes this edition should be free of later 
editing.
> 
> I assume the online ed. is also free of later editing other than
> what is quoted below from the online ed.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Daniel
> 
> 
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "plcoles1" <plcoles1@> wrote:
> >
> > Very interesting information, thanks
> > I use the TUP edition of the SD is that edition free of editing?
> > 
> > The online edition says the following :
> > 
> > "This edition was corrected against the facsimile edition of 
1888. 
> > Obvious errors, such as missing letters, have been corrected; 
> > otherwise it follows the facsimile edition -- material not 
> appearing 
> > there appears in double brackets [[ ]]. Hebrew characters are 
> > inserted as illustrations, but Greek text has been transliterated 
> > into italic Latin characters in double brackets. For further 
> > explanation of the conventions used, go to the Notes file."
> > 
> > http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/sd/sd-hp.htm
> > 
> > Cheers
> > 
> > Perry
> > 
> > 
> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "danielhcaldwell" 
> > <danielhcaldwell@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Carlos on "the authentic edition of the 'Secret Doctrine' 
> > > prepared by Boris de Zirkoff"....!!!!!!
> > > 
> > > Carlos writes:
> > > 
> > > =================================================
> > > It was the Theosophy Co. which first re-published 
> > > the original Secret Doctrine in 1925, thus starting 
> > > the tendency to keep to original editions and to abandon
> > > the "silently edited" and "adapted" editions promoted 
> > > by Adyar.  Later on, by FINALLY adopting the AUTHENTIC
> > > edition of the "Secret Doctrine" prepared by Boris de 
> > > Zirkoff, the very Adyar TS abandoned the fancy and
> > > illegitimate edition of the SD published by GRS Mead 
> > > and Annie Besant in 1897. 
> > > ================================================
> > > 
> > > caps added.
> > > 
> > > I really wonder why Carlos praises "the authentic edition of 
> > > the 'Secret Doctrine' prepared by Boris de Zirkoff".
> > > 
> > > He gives the impression that Adyar abandoned "silent
> > > editing" by adopting the BdeZ "authentic" edition.
> > > 
> > > I have no idea what Carlos means by "authentic".
> > > 
> > > I suppose he has some definition in his mind.
> > > 
> > > But consider the following:
> > > 
> > > Boris de Zirkoff in fact "silently edited" the Collected
> > > Writings edition of the Secret Doctrine first published by
> > > Adyar TPH and later reprinted by Wheaton TPH.
> > > 
> > > In other words, Boris EDITED H.P.B.'s text changing spellings of
> > > words, actually substituted "one word" for another one in many 
> > > instances, etc. etc.  
> > > 
> > > Many examples have been given of these "editings" by Tony 
Maddock
> > > of the Mahatma Letters Trust and also by the late Walter 
> > > Carrithers.  Both Maddock and Carrithers have SEVERELY 
> criticized 
> > > Boris' editing.
> > > 
> > > This in fact constitutes SILENT EDITING.  That is, by looking
> > > at the BdeZ edition of the SD, it is NOT possible to determine 
> what
> > > changes, etc. have actually been made in the text by Boris de 
> > > Zirkoff.
> > > 
> > > In fact, one could aptly borrow a sentence from the Theosophy 
> > > Company to describe Mr. de Zirkoff's edition of the SD:
> > > 
> > > "Its exact authenticity, however, cannot be determined without 
> > > laborious comparison with the original."
> > > 
> > > And Carlos is apparently more than willing to approve of 
> > > THIS "silent editing" with these significant words:
> > > 
> > > "the authentic edition of the 'Secret Doctrine' prepared by 
> Boris 
> > de 
> > > Zirkoff".  !!!!!
> > > 
> > > Now it is true that Boris warns the reader in the prefactory 
> > > material to the new edition that this kind of silent editing 
has 
> > > been done.
> > > 
> > > At least, this is a decided improvement over NO note in the 
> > > Theosophy Company's edition of the VOICE to warn readers 
> > > that "silent editing" has been done!!!
> > > 
> > > Daniel
> > > http://hpb.cc
> > >
> >
>







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