Re: Theos-World Carlos Aveline :|: Leon Maurer
Jun 03, 2006 10:42 PM
Dear Carlos P,
I appreciate your comments and your acceptance of my response to your initial
My intention was only to point out to a new student, how better to understand
the true nature of theosophy, and how it related to the secret Doctrine and
to H. P. Blavatsky, as the original messenger who brought these ancient and
unchanging teachings of the fundamental truths of universal existence and
evolution, as well as its moral imperatives, to the West.
Please don't think that you are responsible for the problems between Carlos
Aveline and myself -- which started long before you came into this forum and
was triggered in this last case (after lying dormant for many months) by his
projective criticisms of my motives after mistakenly misreading and
misinterpreting my letter to you as if it were directed to him personally.
It's understandable how this happened, due to the confusion of your first
names -- since he is particularly touchy of perceived criticism based on the
personal attacks on others he instigated here in the past -- which I first called
him down on many months ago, and was recently exposed by the owner/monitor
of this mostly open and unmoderated forum.
I'm sorry you got caught in the middle of all this, but I accept your
attempts to moderate our differences, and hopefully, Carlos A. will acknowledge his
wrong interpretation of my letter to you, and also cease and desist writing to
me on this subject, with its implied criticisms that are simply a projection
of his own actions in the past, that is now being reflected and continued in
Normally, I don't respond to any letters unless my name is in the subject
line, the subject refers to my own initiated thread, contains wrong views or
questions about theosophy I can answer, or involves that particular aspect of
theosophical science and metaphysics that I am interested in researching and
writing about and discussing on several scientific and theosophical forums for
purposes of my book in progress.
In this present case, my intent was to point out his mistake to him as well
as his hypocrisy of accusing me of something that he has been disturbing this
forum by doing the same thing himself in the past. Unfortunately, he refused
to read my response letter to his faulty accusations, and just continued to
provoke my attention with childish personal responses to avoid facing his own
faults -- that he continues to accuse me of (along with anyone else who might
disagree with his opinions or his actions).
Hopefully, this will stop -- since my last letter is all I have to say to him
-- unless Sr. Carlos A. continues to use my name and its implications in the
subject of his letters to this group.
In the meantime, I hope we can continue discussing questions of theosophical
metaphysics and its implications both scientifically and morally, based on its
merits only, and without resort to personal considerations -- including such
negative references to its original teachers and their messengers, (along with
later pseudo theosophists) that have nothing to do with their teachings.
In a message dated 6/3/06 11:27:52 AM, email@example.com writes:
> Gmail.COM, Carlos Paterson, BR
> -> [firstname.lastname@example.org]
> Dear Friends,
> It seems to be occurring a conflict between Sirs Carlos Aveline
> and Leon Maurer and I am sincerely worried about it, in a sense
> that if it was or not gone off by me. I say it considering that
> all this not appreciative context had been appeared after the
> response send by Sr. Leon Maurer (Wed May 31, 2006 2:16 am ) to a
> past e-mail posted by me called: "THEOSOPHY - Is it possible?".
> I am a newcomer in THEOS-TALK and, in the deep of my heart, I
> would not like to be the inception of any kind of aggressive
> disputes, particularly personal ones. So, I invite you, Friends,
> to stop all this personal attacks that, certainly, it is not
> salubrious for anyone on this forum, and I am sure that you both
> (sincere Theosophists) have the spiritual grandeur to perceive it
> and initialize a new moment .
> Let's establish this new moment starting a constructive and
> respectful debate about the topics raised by me and by the Sr.
> Leon Mauer - after his direct and genuine responses to my e-mail.
> I have not answered the e-mail of the Sr. Leon Mauer for the
> simple reason that it seem to has initialized the conflict
> already mentioned, so I opted to forget it. What, in fact, I have
> done was to publish an e-mail called "Theosophy - Evolutional
> Possibilities" (May 31, 2006), clarifying my personal and general
> point of view.
> I stick here my white flag as a symbol of respect and peace that
> doubtlessly can and must exist between us, specially between Sr.
> Leon Mauer and Carlos Aveline, Theosophists that surely are
> qualified to debate any theosophical matters and help persons
> like me: someone that has never read the Secret Doctrine, that is
> not a customary book, for conceiving it as a work not to be read,
> but consulted.
> Finally, my sincerely thanks to Sr. Leon Maurer for donating this
> time and good intention to me, commenting my e-mail and to Sr.
> Carlos Aveline for all the theosophical contributions that he has
> given to me.
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