Theos-Talk Archives (June 2006 Message tt00023)

-Dear Friends
Still I see no answer,  which seal Solomon used and in what way?   
google search gives and the two interlaced triangles and chaldees 
the three equalized triangles  in a circle,called Enneagram.

As HPB wrote SD II 591/2, it is this two interlaced triangles- 
wrongly called "Solomons's seal".
zDid she means that two ????????
Christina.









-- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "christinaleestemaker" 
<christinaleestemaker@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Dallis,
> Thanks for your work,I shall see the Mahatma's for that too.
> I use the SD from TPH,Wheaton-Adyar-London large 
octavos;illustrated 
> with rare portraits; clothbound; fully indexed.1978/79 printed.in 
3 
> editions.
> I literary typed over what is standing on page 591
> 
> see under your writing:
> -- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "W.Dallas TenBroeck" 
> <dalval14@> wrote:
> >
> > 5/31/2006 4:59 PM
> > 
> > 	Re: 	Meaning of the double triangle
> > 
> > Dear Christinalee Stemaker:
> > 
> > You wrote:   "Can anyone give the answer to this: why HPB (SD 
591)
> wrote the
> > double triangle wrongly called  "Solomons seal",
> > 
> > What edition of the SECRET DOCTRINE do you use?.  There is in 
Vol. 
> II
> > 591[original 1888 SECRET DOCTRINE] some mention of relevant 
> symbology and
> > meaning.  But not the wording you use.  
> 
> Dallis, strange enough she used the words in my book: After she 
> explain the Indian Trimurti: 
> *** 
> For even in the exoteric rendering, the lower triangle with the 
apex 
> downward is the symbol of Vishnu, the god of the moist principle 
and 
> water ( Nârâ-Yana) or the moving principle in water(Nârâ); while 
the 
> triangle with its apex upward, is Shiva, the principle of Fire, 
> symbolized by the triple flame in his hand.
> It is these two interlacted triangles- wrongle called "Solomons 
seal"
> which also form the emblem of our Society.   see farther page 
> 592.which allinea I typed over before.
> 
> ***
> By this I don't understand why she mentioned this, for the 
solomons 
> seal have more meanings, not only the enneagram with 3 equalized 
> triangles in the circle, also there is a sign with this two 
> triangles.
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > I think we all use and refer to the ORIGINAL 1888 Edition.
> ***
> Which I have.
> 
> Times ago you also could not find the  SOLAR  and LUNAR ,for MANAS 
> is double.
> Which she give explanation on page 495/6:Varius names for 
> initiations:
>   
> Lunar is lower manas(animal soul), and solar is the higher manas
> (human soul),which is towards Buddhi.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > Here are a few references I have found:
> > 
> > -----------------------------------------------
> > 
> > 	Heptachord   - Lyre of Apollo
> > 
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > MAHATMA LETTERS [Barker], pp. 345-6  explains:
> > 
> > "Does your B.T.S. know the meaning of the white and black 
> interlaced
> > triangles, of the Parent Society's seal that it has also 
adopted? 
> Shall I
> > explain? ? 
> > 
> > the double triangle viewed by the Jewish Kabalists as Solomon's 
> Seal, is, as
> > many of you doubtless know the Sri-antara of the archaic Aryan 
> Temple, the
> > "mystery of Mysteries," a geometrical synthesis of the whole 
occult
> > doctrine. 
> > 
> > The two interlaced triangles are the Buddhangums of Creation. 
They 
> contain
> > the "squaring of the circle," the "philosophical stone," the 
great 
> problems
> > of Life and Death, and -- the Mystery of Evil. 
> > 
> > The chela who can explain this sign from every one of its 
aspects -
> - is
> > virtually an adept. 
> > 
> > How is it then that the only one among you, who has come so near 
to
> > unravelling the mystery is also the only one who got none of her 
> ideas from
> > books? Unconsciously she gives out -- to him who has the key -- 
> the first
> > syllable of the Ineffable name! 
> > 
> > Of course you know that the double-triangle -- the Satkiri 
Chakram 
> of Vishnu
> > -- or the six-pointed star, is the perfect seven. In all the old 
> Sanskrit
> > works -- Vedic and Tantrik -- you find the number 6 mentioned 
more 
> often
> > than the 7 -- this last figure, the central point being implied, 
> for it is
> > the germ of the six and their matrix. 
> > 
> > It is then thus . . . [At this point in the original there is a 
> rough
> > drawing of the interlaced triangles inscribed in a circle. -- 
> ED.] -- the
> > central point standing for seventh, and the circle, the 
Mahakasha -
> - endless
> > space -- for the seventh Universal Principle. 
> > 
> > In one sense, both are viewed as Avalokitesvara, for they are 
> respectively
> > the Macrocosm and the microcosm. 
> > 
> > The interlaced triangles -- the upper pointing one -- is Wisdom 
> concealed,
> > and the downward pointing one -- Wisdom revealed (in the 
> phenomenal world). 
> > 
> > The circle indicates the bounding, circumscribing quality of the 
> All, the
> > Universal Principle which, from any given point expands so as to 
> embrace all
> > things, while embodying the potentiality of every action in the 
> Cosmos. 
> > 
> > As the point then is the centre round which the circle is 
traced --
>  they are
> > identical and one, and though from the standpoint of Maya and 
> Avidya --
> > (illusion and ignorance) -- one is separated from the other by 
the
> > manifested triangle, the 3 sides of which represent the three 
> gunas --
> > finite attributes. 
> > 
> > In symbology the central point is Jivatma (the 7th principle), 
and 
> hence
> > Avalokitesvara, the Kwan-Shai-yin, the manifested "Voice" (or 
> Logos), the
> > germ point of manifested activity; -- hence -- in the 
phraseology 
> of the
> > Christian Kabalists "the Son of the Father and Mother," and 
> agreeably to
> > ours -- "the Self manifested in Self -- Yih-sin, the "one form of
> > existence," the child of Dharmakaya (the universally diffused 
> Essence), both
> > male and female. 
> > 
> > Parabrahm or "Adi-Buddha" while acting through that germ point 
> outwardly as
> > an active force, reacts from the circumference inwardly as the 
> Supreme but
> > latent Potency. 
> > 
> > The double triangles symbolize the Great Passive and the Great 
> Active; the
> > male and female; Purusha and Prakriti. 
> > 
> > Each triangle is a Trinity because presenting a triple aspect. 
> > 
> > The white represents in its straight lines: Gnanam -- 
(Knowledge); 
> Gnata --
> > (the Knower); and Gnayam -- (that which is known). The black-
form, 
> colour,
> > and substance, also the creative, preservative, and destructive 
> forces and
> > are mutually correlating, etc., etc. 
> > 
> > Well may you admire and more should you wonder at the marvellous 
> lucidity of
> > that remarkable seeress [Mrs. Kingsford], who ignorant of 
Sanskrit 
> or Pali,
> > and thus shut out from their metaphysical treasures, has yet 
seen 
> a great
> > light shining from behind the dark bills of exoteric religions. 
> How, think
> > you, did the "Writers of the Perfect Way" come to know that 
Adonai 
> was the
> > Son and not the Father; or that the third Person of the 
Christian 
> Trinity is
> > -- female? Verily, they lay in that work several times their 
hands 
> upon the
> > keystone of Occultism. Only does the lady -- who persists using 
> without an
> > explanation the misleading term "God" in her writings -- know 
how 
> nearly she
> > comes up to our doctrine when saying: -- "Having for Father, 
> Spirit which is
> > Life (the endless Circle or Parabrahm) and for Mother the Great 
> Deep, which
> > is Substance (Prakriti in its undifferentiated condition) -- 
Adonai
> > possesses the potency of both and wields the dual powers of all 
> things." 
> > 
> > We would say triple, but in the sense as given this will do. 
> > 
> > Pythagoras had a reason for never using the finite, useless 
> figure -- 2, and
> > for altogether discarding it. 
> > 
> > The ONE, can, when manifesting, become only 3. 
> > 
> > The unmanifested when a simple duality remains passive and 
> concealed. The
> > dual monad (the 7th and 6th principles) has, in order to 
manifest 
> itself as
> > a Logos, the "Kwan-shai-yin" to first become a triad (7th, 6th 
and 
> half of
> > the 5th); then, on the bosom of the "Great Deep" attracting 
within 
> itself
> > the One Circle -- form out of it the perfect Square, 
> thus "squaring the
> > circle" -- the greatest of all the mysteries, friend -- and 
> inscribing
> > within the latter the -- WORD (the Ineffable name) -- otherwise 
> the duality
> > could never tarry as such, and would have to be reabsorbed into 
> the ONE. 
> > 
> > The "Deep" is Space -- both male and female. "Purush (as Brahma) 
> breathes in
> > the Eternity: when 'he' in-breathes -- Prakriti (as manifested 
> Substance)
> > disappears in his bosom; when 'he' out-breathes she reappears as 
> Maya," says
> > the Sloka. The One reality is Mulaprakriti (undifferentiated 
> Substance) --
> > the "Rootless root," the. . . But we have to stop, lest there 
> should remain
> > but little to tell for your own intuitions. 
> > 
> > Well may the Geometer of the R.S. not know that the apparent 
> absurdity of
> > attempting to square the circle covers a mystery ineffable. It 
> would hardly
> > be found among the foundation stones of Mr. Roden Noel's 
> speculations upon
> > the "pneumatical body . . . of our Lord," nor among the debris 
of 
> Mr.
> > Farmer's "A New Basis of Belief in Immortality"; and to many such
> > metaphysical minds it would be worse than useless to divulge the 
> fact, that 
> > 
> > the Unmanifested Circle -- the Father, or Absolute Life -- is 
non-
> existent
> > outside the Triangle and Perfect Square, and -- is only 
manifested 
> in the
> > Son; and that it is when, reversing the action and returning to 
> its absolute
> > state of Unity, and the square expands once more into the 
Circle --
>  that
> > "the Son returns to the bosom of the Father." 
> > 
> > There it remains until called back by his Mother -- the "Great 
> Deep," to
> > remanifest as a triad -- the Son partaking at once, of the 
Essence 
> of the
> > Father, and of that of the Mother -- the active Substance, 
> Prakriti in its
> > differentiated condition. 
> > 
> > "My Mother -- (Sophia -- the manifested Wisdom) took me" -- says 
> Jesus in a
> > Gnostic treatise; and he asks his disciples to tarry till he 
> comes. . . .
> > The true "Word" may only be found by tracing the mystery of the 
> passage
> > inward and outward of the Eternal Life, through the states 
> typified in these
> > three geometric figures. 
> > 
> > The criticism of "A Student of Occultism" (whose wits are 
> sharpened by the
> > mountain air of his home) and the answer of "S.T.K. . . . Chary" 
> (June
> > Theosophist) upon a part of your annular and circular 
expositions 
> need not
> > annoy or disturb in any way your philosophic calm. 
> > 
> > As our Pondicherry chela significantly says, neither you nor any 
> other man
> > across the threshold has had or ever will have the "complete 
> theory" of
> > Evolution taught him; or get it unless he guesses it for 
himself. 
> > 
> > If anyone can unravel it from such tangled threads as are given 
> him, very
> > well; and a fine proof it would indeed be of his or her 
spiritual 
> insight.
> > Some -- have come very near it. But yet there is always with the 
> best of
> > them just enough error, -- colouring and misconception; the 
shadow 
> of Manas
> > projecting across the field of Buddhi -- to prove the eternal 
law 
> that only
> > the unshackled Spirit shall see the things of the Spirit without 
a 
> veil. 
> > 
> > No untaught amateur could ever rival the proficient in this 
branch 
> of
> > research; yet the world's real Revelators have been few, and its
> > pseudo-Saviours legion; and fortunate it is if their half-
glimpses 
> of the
> > light are not, like Islam, enforced at the sword's point, or 
like 
> Christian
> > Theology, amid blazing faggots and in torture chambers. 
> > 
> > Your Fragments contain some -- still very few errors, due solely 
> to your two
> > preceptors of Adyar, one of whom would not, and the other could 
> not tell you
> > all. The rest could not be called mistakes -- rather incomplete
> > explanations. These are due, partly to your own imperfect 
> education in your
> > last theme -- I mean the ever-threatening obscurations -- partly 
> to the poor
> > vehicles of language at our disposal, and in part again, to the 
> reserve
> > imposed upon us by rule. Yet, all things considered, they are 
few 
> and
> > trivial; while as to those noticed by "A Student, etc." (the 
> Marcus Aurelius
> > of Simla) in your No. VII, it will be pleasant for you to know 
> that every
> > one of them, however now seeming to you contradictory, can (and 
if 
> it should
> > seem necessary shall) be easily reconciled with facts. 
> > 
> > The trouble is that (a) you cannot be given the real figures and 
> difference
> > in the Rounds, and (b) that you do not open doors enough for 
> explorers. 
> > 
> > The bright Luminary of the B.T.S. and the Intelligences that 
> surround her
> > (embodied I mean) may help you to see the flaws: at all events 
> Try. "Nothing
> > was ever lost by trying." 
> > 
> > You share with all beginners the tendency to draw too absolutely 
> strong
> > inferences from partly caught hints, and to dogmatize thereupon 
as 
> though
> > the last word had been spoken. You will correct this in due 
time. 
> You may
> > misunderstand us, are more than likely to do so, for our 
language 
> must
> > always be more or less that of parable and suggestion, when 
> treading upon
> > forbidden ground; we have our own peculiar modes of expression 
and 
> what lies
> > behind the fence of words is even more important than what you 
> read. But
> > still -- TRY. 
> > 
> > Perhaps if Mr. S. Moses could know just what was meant by what 
was 
> said to
> > him, and about his Intelligences, he would find all strictly 
true. 
> As he is
> > a man of interior growth, his day may come and his 
reconciliation 
> with "the
> > Occultists" be complete. Who knows? 
> > 
> > Meanwhile, I shall, with your permission, close this first 
volume. 
> > 
> > 	
> > K. H. 
> > 
> > {Esoteric Buddhism was published June 11.} 
> > 
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------
- 
> 	
> > 
> > 
> > See TRANSACTIONS OF THE BLAVATSKY LODGE:  p.   106  [Blavatsky:  
> COLLECTED
> > WORKS  Vol. X ]
> > 
> > 		STANZA III. (continued). 
> > 
> > Sloka (2). THE VIBRATION SWEEPS ALONG, TOUCHING WITH ITS SWIFT 
WING
> > (simultaneously) THE WHOLE UNIVERSE; AND THE GERM THAT DWELLETH 
IN 
> DARKNESS:
> > THE DARKNESS THAT BREATHES (moves) OVER THE SLUMBERING WATERS OF 
> LIFE. 
> > 
> > 
> > Q. How are we to understand the expression that the vibration 
> touches the
> > whole universe and also the germ? 
> > 
> > A. First of all the terms used must be defined as far as 
possible, 
> for the
> > language used is purely figurative. The Universe does not mean 
the 
> Kosmos or
> > world of forms but the formless space, the future vehicle of the 
> Universe
> > which will be manifested. This space is synonymous with 
> the "waters of
> > space," with (to us) eternal darkness, in fact with Parabrahm. 
In 
> short the
> > whole Sloka refers to the "period" before there was any 
> manifestation
> > whatever. In the same way the Germ?the Germ is eternal, the 
> undifferentiated
> > atoms of future matter?- is one with space, as infinite as it is
> > indestructible, and as eternal as space itself. Similarly 
> with "vibration,"
> > which corresponds with the Point, the unmanifested Logos. 
> > 
> > It is necessary to add one important explanation. In using 
> figurative
> > language, as has been done in the Secret Doctrine, analogies and 
> comparisons
> > are very frequent. Darkness for instance, as a rule, applies 
only 
> to the
> > unknown totality, or, Absoluteness. Contrasted with eternal 
> darkness the
> > first Logos is certainly, Light; contrasted with the second or 
> third, the
> > manifested Logoi, the first is Darkness, and the others are 
Light.
> > 
> > 
> > Sloka (3). DARKNESS RADIATES LIGHT, AND LIGHT DROPS ONE SOLITARY 
> RAY INTO
> > THE WATERS, THE MOTHER-DEEP. THE RAY SHOOTS THROUGH THE VIRGIN 
> EGG; THE RAY
> > CAUSES THE ETERNAL EGG TO THRILL, AND DROP THE NON-ETERNAL 
> (periodical)
> > GERM, WHICH CONDENSES INTO THE WORLD-EGG. 
> > 
> > 
> > Q. Why is Light said to drop one solitary ray into the waters 
and 
> how is
> > this ray represented in connection with the Triangle? 
> > 
> > A. However many the Rays may appear to be on this plane, when 
> brought back
> > to their original source they will finally be resolved into a 
> unity, like
> > the seven prismatic colors which all proceed from, and are 
> resolved into the
> > one white ray. Thus too, this one solitary Ray expands into the 
> seven rays
> > (and their innumerable sub-divisions) on the plane of illusion 
> only. It is
> > represented in connection with the Triangle because the Triangle 
> is the
> > first perfect geometrical figure. As stated by Pythagoras, and 
> also in the
> > Stanza, the Ray (the Pythagorean Monad) descending from "no-
place" 
> (Aloka),
> > shoots like a falling star through the planes of non-being into 
> the first
> > world of being, and gives birth to Number One; then branching 
off, 
> to the
> > right, it produces Number Two; turning again to form the base-
line 
> it begets
> > Number Three, and thence ascending again to Number One, it 
finally
> > disappears therefrom into the realms of non-being as Pythagoras 
> shows. 
> > 
> > 
> > Q. Why should Pythagorean teachings be found in old Hindu 
> philosophies? 
> > 
> > A. Pythagoras derived this teaching from India and in the old 
> books we find
> > him spoken of as the Yavanacharya or Greek Teacher. Thus we see 
> that the
> > Triangle is the first differentiation, its sides however all 
being 
> described
> > by the one Ray. 
> > 
> > 
> > Q. What is really meant by the term "planes of non-being"?
> > 
> > A. In using the term "planes of non-being" it is necessary to 
> remember that
> > these planes are only to us spheres of non-being, but those of 
> being and
> > matter to higher intelligences than ourselves. The highest Dhyan-
> Chohans of
> > the Solar System can have no conception of that which exists in 
> higher
> > systems, i.e., on the second "septenary" Kosmic plane, which to 
> the Beings
> > of the ever invisible Universe is entirely subjective. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Sloka (4). (Then) THE THREE (Triangle) FALL INTO THE FOUR 
> (Quaternary). THE
> > RADIANT ESSENCE BECOMES SEVEN INSIDE, SEVEN OUTSIDE. THE 
LUMINOUS 
> EGG
> > (Hiranyagarbha), WHICH IN ITSELF IS THREE (the triple hypostases 
> of Brahma,
> > or Vishnu, the three Avasthas) CURDLES AND SPREADS IN MILK WHITE 
> CURDS
> > THROUGHOUT THE DEPTHS OF MOTHER, THE ROOT THAT GROWS IN THE 
OCEAN 
> OF LIFE. 
> > 
> > Q. Is the Radiant Essence the same as the luminous Egg? What is 
> the Root
> > that grows in the ocean of life? 
> > 
> > A. The radiant essence, luminous egg or Golden Egg of Brahma, or 
> again,
> > Hiranyagarbha, are identical. The Root that grows in the ocean 
of 
> life is
> > the potentiality that transforms into objective differentiated 
> matter the
> > universal, subjective, ubiquitous but homogeneous germ, or the 
> eternal
> > essence which contains the potency of abstract nature. The Ocean 
> of Life is,
> > according to a term of the Vedanta philosophy?if I mistake not?
> the "One
> > Life," Paramatma, when the transcendental supreme Soul is meant; 
> and
> > Jivatma, when we speak of the physical and animal "breath of 
life" 
> or, so to
> > speak, the differentiated soul, that life in short, which gives 
> being to the
> > atom and the universe, the molecule and the man, the animal, 
> plant, and
> > mineral. 
> > 
> > "The Radiant Essence curdled and spread through the depths of 
> Space." From
> > an astronomical point of view this is easy of explanation: it is 
> the Milky
> > Way, the world-stuff, or primordial matter in its first form.
> > 
> > 
> > Q. Is the Radiant Essence, Milky Way, or world-stuff, resolvable 
> into atoms,
> > or is it non-atomic? 
> > 
> > A. In its precosmic state it is of course, non-atomic, if by 
atoms 
> you mean
> > molecules; for the hypothetical atom, a mere mathematical point, 
> is not
> > material or applicable to matter, nor even to substance. 
> > 
> > The real atom does not exist on the material plane. The 
definition 
> of a
> > point as having position, must not, in Occultism, be taken in 
the 
> ordinary
> > sense of location; as the real atom is beyond space and time. 
The 
> word
> > molecular is really applicable to our globe and its plane, only: 
> once inside
> > of it, even on the other globes of our planetary chain, matter 
is 
> in quite
> > another condition, and non-molecular. 
> > 
> > The atom is in its eternal state, invisible even to the eye of 
an 
> Archangel;
> > and becomes visible to the latter only periodically, during the 
> life cycle.
> > The particle, or molecule, is not, but exists periodically, and 
is 
> therefore
> > regarded as an illusion. 
> > 
> > The world-stuff informs itself through various planes and cannot 
> be said to
> > be resolved into stars or to have become molecular until it 
> reaches the
> > plane of being of the visible or objective Universe. 
> > 
> > 
> > Q. Can ether be said to be molecular in Occultism? 
> > 
> > A. It entirely depends upon what is meant by the term. In its 
> lowest strata,
> > where it merges with the astral light, it may be called 
molecular 
> on its own
> > plane; but not for us. But the ether of which science has a 
> suspicion, is
> > the grossest manifestation of Akasa, though on our plane, for us 
> mortals, it
> > is the seventh principle of the astral light, and three degrees 
> higher than
> > "radiant matter." When it penetrates, or informs something, it 
may 
> be
> > molecular because it takes on the form of the latter, and its 
> atoms inform
> > the particles of that "something." We may perhaps call 
> matter "crystallized
> > ether."
> > 
> > 
> > Q. But what is an atom, in fact? 
> > 
> > A. An atom may be compared to (and is for the Occultist) the 
> seventh
> > principle of a body or rather of a molecule. The physical or 
> chemical
> > molecule is composed of an infinity of finer molecules and these 
> in their
> > turn of innumerable and still finer molecules. 
> > 
> > Take for instance a molecule of iron and so resolve it that it 
> becomes
> > non-molecular; it is then, at once transformed into one of its 
> seven
> > principles, viz., its astral body; the seventh of these is the 
> atom. The
> > analogy between a molecule of iron, before it is broken up, and 
> this same
> > molecule after resolution, is the same as that between a 
physical 
> body
> > before and after death. The principles remain minus the body. Of 
> course this
> > is occult alchemy, not modern chemistry. 
> > 
> > Q. What is the meaning of the allegorical "churning of the 
ocean," 
> and "cow
> > of plenty" of the Hindus, and what correspondence is there 
between 
> them and
> > the "war in heaven"? 
> > 
> > A. A process which begins in the state of "non-being," and ends 
> with the
> > close of Maha-Pralaya, can hardly be given in a few words or 
even 
> volumes.
> > It is simply an allegorical representation of the unseen and 
> unknown
> > primeval intelligences, the atoms of occult science, Brahma 
> himself being
> > called Anu or the Atom, fashioning and differentiating the 
> shoreless ocean
> > of the primordial radiant essence. 
> > 
> > The relation and correspondence between the "churning of the 
> ocean" and the
> > "war in heaven" is a very long and abstruse subject to handle. 
To 
> give it in
> > its lowest symbolical aspect, this "war in heaven" is going on 
> eternally.
> > Differentiation is contrast, the equilibrium of contraries: and 
so 
> long as
> > this exists there will be "war" or fighting. 
> > 
> > There are, of course, different stages and aspects of this war: 
> such for
> > instance as the astronomical and physical. 
> > 
> > For everyone and everything that is born in a Manvantara, there 
> is "war in
> > heaven" and also on the earth: for the fourteen Root and Seed-
> Manus who
> > preside over our Manvantaric cycle, and for the countless 
Forces, 
> human or
> > otherwise, that proceed from them. 
> > 
> > There is a perpetual struggle of adjustment, for everything 
tends 
> to
> > harmonize and equilibrate; in fact it must do so before it can 
> assume any
> > shape. The elements of which we are formed, the particles of our 
> bodies, are
> > in a continual war, one crowding out the other and changing with 
> every
> > moment. 
> > 
> > At the "Churning of the Ocean" by the gods, the Nagas came and 
> some stole of
> > the Amrita?the water of Immortality,?and thence arose war 
between 
> the gods
> > and the Asuras, the no-gods, and the gods were worsted. This 
> refers to the
> > formation of the Universe and the differentiation of the 
> primordial primeval
> > matter. But you must remember, that this is only the 
cosmogonical 
> aspect?one
> > out of the seven meanings. The war in heaven had also immediate 
> reference to
> > the evolution of the intellectual principle in mankind. This is 
the
> > metaphysical key. ...
> > 
> > 
> > Q. In what sense can numbers be called Entities? 
> > 
> > A. When intelligent Entities are meant; when they are *(Vol. I., 
> p. 66.)
> > regarded simply as digits they are, of course, not Entities but 
> symbolical
> > signs. 
> > 
> > Q. Why is the radiant essence said to become seven inside and 
> seven outside?
> > 
> > 
> > A. Because it has seven principles on the plane of the 
manifested 
> and seven
> > on that of the unmanifested. Always argue on analogy and apply 
the 
> old
> > occult axiom "As above so below." 
> > 
> > 
> > Q. But are the planes of "non-being" also Septenary? 
> > 
> > A. Most undeniably. That which in the Secret Doctrine is 
referred 
> to as the
> > unmanifested planes, are unmanifested or planes of non-being 
only 
> from the
> > point of view of the finite intellect; to higher intelligences 
> they would be
> > manifested planes and so on to infinity, analogy always holding 
> good.
> > 
> > 			
> > 	THE ROOT REMAINS, THE LIGHT REMAINS, THE CURDS REMAIN,
> > 	AND STILL OEAOHOO IS ONE. 
> > 
> > 
> > Q. What is meant by saying that these remain? 
> > 
> > A. It means simply that whatever the plurality of manifestation 
> may be,
> > still it is all one. In other words these are all different 
> aspects of the
> > one element; it does not mean that they remain without 
> differentiation. 
> > 
> > "The curds are the first differentiation, and probably refer 
also 
> to that
> > cosmic matter which is supposed to be the origin of the 'Milky 
> Way'?the
> > matter we know. This 'matter,' which, according to the 
revelation 
> received
> > from the primeval Dhyani-Buddhas, is, during the periodical 
sleep 
> of the
> > Universe, of the ultimate tenuity conceivable to the eye of the 
> perfect
> > Bodhisatva?this matter, radical and cool, becomes, at the first 
> reawakening
> > of cosmic motion, scattered through Space; appearing, when seen 
> from the
> > Earth, in clusters and lumps, like curds in thin milk. These are 
> the seeds
> > of the future worlds, the 'Star-stuff'."*
> > 
> > 
> > Q. Is it to be supposed that the Milky Way is composed of matter 
> in a state
> > of differentiation other than that with which we are acquainted? 
> > 
> > A. I thoroughly believe so. It is the store-house of the 
materials 
> from
> > which the stars, planets and other celestial bodies are 
produced. 
> Matter in
> > this state does not exist on earth; but that which is already 
> differentiated
> > and found on earth is also found on other planets and vice-
versa. 
> * (Vol.I.,
> > p. 69.) 
> > 
> > But, as I understand, before reaching the planets from its 
> condition in the
> > Milky Way matter has first to pass through many stages of 
> differentiation.
> > The matter, for instance, within the Solar system is in an 
entirely
> > different state from that which is outside or beyond the system. 
> > [ S D   I  142- ]
> > 
> > 
> > Q. Is there a difference between the Nebulae and the Milky Way? 
> > 
> > A. The same, I should say, that there is between a highway road 
> and the
> > stones and mud upon that road. There must be, of course, a 
> difference
> > between the matter of the Milky Way and that of the various 
> Nebulae, and
> > these again must differ among themselves. But in all your 
> scientific
> > calculations and measurements it is necessary to consider that 
the 
> light by
> > which the objects are seen is a reflected light, and the optical 
> illusion
> > caused by the atmosphere of the earth renders it impossible that
> > calculations of distances, etc., should be absolutely correct, 
in 
> addition
> > to the fact that it entirely alters observations of the matter 
of 
> which the
> > celestial bodies are composed, as it is liable to impose upon us 
a
> > constitution similar to that of the earth. This is, at any rate, 
> what the
> > MASTERS teach us.  ..
> > 
> > Fire is the father of light, light the parent of heat and air 
> (vital air).
> > If the absolute deity can be referred to as Darkness or the Dark 
> Fire, the
> > light, its first progeny, is truly the first self-conscious god. 
> For what is
> > light in its primordial root but the world-illuminating and life-
> giving
> > deity? 
> > 
> > Light is that, which from an abstraction has become a reality. 
No 
> one has
> > ever seen real or primordial light; what we see is only its 
broken 
> rays or
> > reflections, which become denser and less luminous as they 
descend 
> into form
> > and matter. 
> > 
> > Fire, therefore, is a term which comprehends ALL. Fire is the 
> invisible
> > deity, "the Father," and the manifesting light is God "the Son," 
> and also
> > the Sun. Fire?in the occult sense?is æther, and æther is born of 
> motion, and
> > motion is the eternal dark, invisible Fire. 
> > 
> > Light sets in motion and controls all in nature, from that 
highest
> > primordial æther down to the tiniest molecule in Space. MOTION 
is 
> eternal
> > per se, and in the manifested Kosmos it is the Alpha and Omega 
of 
> that which
> > is called electricity, galvanism, magnetism, sensation?moral and
> > physical?thought, and even life, on this plane. Thus fire, on 
our 
> plane, is
> > simply the manifestation of motion, or Life. 
> > 
> > All cosmic phenomena were referred to by the Rosicrucians 
> as "animated
> > geometry." Every polar function is only a repetition of primeval 
> polarity,
> > said the Fire-Philosophers. For motion begets heat, and æther in 
> motion is
> > heat. When it slackens its motion, then cold is generated, 
> for "cold is
> > æther, in a latent condition." 
> > 
> > Thus the principal states of nature are three positive and three 
> negative,
> > synthesized by the primeval light. The three negative states are 
> (1)
> > Darkness; (2) Cold; (3) Vacuum or Voidness. 
> > 
> > The three positive are (1) Light (on our plane); (2) Heat; (3) 
All 
> nature. 
> > 
> > Thus Fire may be called the unity of the Universe. Pure cosmic 
fire
> > (without, so to speak, fuel) is Deity in its universality; for 
> cosmic fire,
> > or heat which it calls forth, is every atom of matter in 
> manifested nature.
> > There is not a thing or a particle in the Universe which does 
not 
> contain in
> > it latent fire. 
> > 
> > 
> > Q. Fire, then, may be regarded as the first Element? 
> > 
> > A. When we say that fire is the first of the Elements, it is the 
> first only
> > in the visible universe, the fire that we commonly know. Even on 
> the highest
> > plane of our universe, the plane of Globe A or G, fire is in one 
> respect
> > only the fourth. 
> > 
> > For the Occultist, the Rosecroix of the Middle Ages, and even 
the 
> mediaeval
> > Kabalists, said that to our human perception and even to that of 
> the highest
> > "angels," the universal Deity is darkness, and from this 
Darkness 
> issues the
> > Logos in the following aspects, (1) Weight (Chaos which becomes 
> æther in its
> > primordial state); (2) Light; (3) Heat; (4) Fire.
> > 
> > [Corporeal substance belongs to the fifth division of the 
seventh 
> Principle
> > of the Mother substance, and is, therefore, four degrees higher 
> than the
> > solar reflected substance.  As there are seven Dhatu (principle 
> substances
> > in the human body) so there are seven Forces in Man and in all 
> Nature."
> > ( S D   I,   289-290) and  Kama-Rupa Of Akasa I 527fn; ) ]
> >  
> > Q. In what relation does the Sun, the highest form of Fire we 
can 
> recognize,
> > stand to Fire as you have explained it? 
> > 
> > A. The Sun, as on our plane, is not even "Solar" fire. The Sun, 
we 
> see,
> > gives nothing of itself, because it is a reflection; a bundle of
> > electro-magnetic forces, one of the countless milliards 
of "Knots 
> of Fohat."
> > Fohat is called the "Thread of primeval Light," the "Ball of 
> thread" of
> > Ariadne, indeed, in this labyrinth of chaotic matter. This 
thread 
> runs
> > through the seven planes tying itself into knots. Every plane 
being
> > septenary, there are thus forty-nine mystical and physical 
forces, 
> larger
> > knots forming stars, suns and systems, the smaller planets, and 
so 
> on. 
> > 
> > 
> > Q. In what respect is the Sun an illusion? 
> > 
> > A. The electro-magnetic knot of our Sun is neither tangible nor 
> dimensional,
> > nor even as molecular as the electricity we know. The Sun 
absorbs,
> > "psychizes" and vampirizes its subjects within its system. 
Further 
> than this
> > it gives out nothing of itself. It is an absurdity, therefore, 
to 
> say that
> > the solar fires are being consumed and gradually extinguished. 
The 
> Sun has
> > but one distinct function; it gives the impulse of life to all 
> that breathes
> > and lives under its light. The sun is the throbbing heart of the 
> system;
> > each throb being an impulse. But this heart is invisible: no 
> astronomer will
> > ever see it. That which is concealed in this heart and that 
which 
> we feel
> > and see, its apparent flame and fires, to use a simile, are the 
> nerves
> > governing the muscles of the solar system, and nerves, moreover, 
> outside of
> > the body. This impulse is not mechanical but a purely spiritual, 
> nervous
> > impulse. "		
> > 
> > ----------------------------------------------
> > 
> > Best wishes,
> > 
> > Dallas
> >  
> > ======================================================
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: christinaleestemaker
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 11:10 AM
> > Subject: Meaning of the double triangle.
> > 
> > Dear All;
> > 
> > Can anyone give the answer to this:
> > 
> > why HPB (SD 591)wrote the double triangle wrongly 
> called  "Solomons seal",
> > 
> > 		snip
> >
>