Theos-Talk Archives (June 2006 Message tt00015)

Dear Dallas,

Most interesting, thanks a lot! 

Carlos C. Aveline 

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Data:Thu, 1 Jun 2006 07:28:22 -0700

Assunto:[Spam] RE: Theos-World VIRACHOCHA and INTI Venus = uppersun.

> 6/1/2006 6:47 AM
> 
> Dear Chris:
> 
> Do you have a reference to your statement:
> 
> "Subject: Re: VIRACHOCHA and INTI Venus = upper-sun.
> 
> and Venus is behind our Sun, the great living giving deity from which 
> our sun get 1/3 of the Venus radiance.
> 
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> 
> I found in the SECRET DOCTRINE :
> 
> VENUS (goddess). See LUCIFER
> 
> Aditi identified w II 43, 458 
> Amphitrite early form of II 578 
> -Aphrodite, Argha & II 461 
> -Aphrodite personified sea I 458n 
> associated w Satan II 31-2n, 45n 
> -Astarte & Kadeshim II 460 
> Ashtoreth, Jehovah & II 462 
> bearded I 72n; II 30n, 135 
> born fr sea wave II 65 
> celestial Priapus born of II 458 
> w cow's horns II 31, 418n 
> described II 29-33 
> Durga Kali black side of II 579 
> Hiram built temple to II 541 
> Ishtar & II 62 
> Isis or II 30, 43 
> Jehovah-Binah or I 392 
> Kama son of II 176 
> Lakshmi or I 380n; II 76 &n, 77, 578-9 
> leader of Danavas II 498 
> Lucifer-, war w Jupiter I 202 
> origin of mythology of II 30 
> passive generative power II 418n, 461 
> six sacred to, (Pythagorean) II 592 
> star of the sea I 392 
> Usanas or, aid Soma in war II 498 
> Usanas-Sukra is, & Lucifer II 45 
> Virgin took over, worship I 400-1 
> wife, mother, sister I 396
> Venus (planet)
> adept's' knowledge of races on II 699 
> adopted Earth II 32-3 
> ansated cross symb of II 30, 31n 
> called little sun II 24 
> changes along w Earth II 32 
> described II 29-33, 707 
> Earth linked w II 30-1 
> Friday the day of I 652 
> hostile to human life II 707 
> inclination of axis of II 32 
> in last round I 165 
> less dense than Earth I 593 
> light-bearer to Earth II 33 
> looking glass sign of II 546 
> Lucifer or I 202; II 30, 31-2 &n, 45n, 501, 512, 540 
> Mars, Mercury &, lower triad II 462 
> men of, more gross I 602 
> Mercury more occult than II 28 
> Moon, water & II 77 
> Morning Star II 540 
> no satellites I 155n, 165; II 32 
> one w Mercury & Sun II 542 
> Orai genius of I 577; II 538n 
> parent moon of, dissolved I 155-6n 
> planetary chain I 164 
> Principalities gods of I 435 
> rulers, regents of I 435, 575 
> Semele presides betw Mars & I 400 
> sign of, explained I 5; II 29-30 
> Sophia, Holy Ghost & II 512, 540 
> superior globes of, invisible I 153 
> third race under II 24, 29
> Venus (third world of Syrians), Principalities rule over I 435
> 
> 
> VENUS-LUCIFER. See also Lucifer, Lucifer-Venus, Morning Star, Venus
> descends to pit II 785-6 
> Moon more influential than I 305 
> sister, alter ego of Earth I 305
> 
> 
> LUCIFER. See also Agnishvattas, Angels, 
> Asuras, Fall, Prometheus, Satan, Venus
> Adversary in lowest aspect II 162 
> aether, astral light II 511-13 
> both Holy Ghost & Satan II 513 
> conferred spiritual immortality II 243, 388 
> crescent-like horns of II 31-2n 
> essence of Mahat II 513 
> fallen cherub II 501 
> first archangel fr chaos I 70 
> "Harbinger of Light" II 243 
> higher, older than Jehovah I 70-1 
> Hindu, can reunite w deity II 237n 
> Levi on II 511 
> "light-bringer" II 238n 
> Logos in highest aspect II 162 
> Loki, Prometheus were II 283n 
> Mahasura, Prometheus II 237n 
> messenger, seraphim, cherubim II 243 
> Morning Star I 70-1; II 45n, 238n, 239, 501, 540 
> origin of II 490-2 
> pontiff name II 33 
> presides over light of truth II 512 
> Satan & I 70-1; II 31-2 &nn, 45n, 111, 230, 283n 
> serpent of Genesis II 243 
> spirit of intellect II 162 
> Usanas-Sukra is our II 45n 
> Venus called, by Christians II 30-2, 45n, 501, 512 
> Verbum &, are one II 515
> Egyptian initiation scenes II 558-9 
> revelation of cosmogony I 168
> Luciferians, Gnostic sect II 239n
> Michael & I 202 
> Pistis Sophia on II 512 
> St Augustine's ideas & II 32 
> Titans & II 31
> 
> 
> -----------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> SUN See Central Sun, Solar, Solar Systems, Surya
> 
> Adonai or, (Gnostic) I 577; II 538n 
> all Earth's elements in I 583 
> Apollo, Phoebus or II 770 
> born, grows, changes, dies I 609 
> bright god of light I 479 
> Brothers of the I 271n 
> central mass of, gaseous I 530 &n 
> chief of twelve constellations II 23 
> -Christ lives in thee (Bernard) I 401 
> combustion, not in I 149, 541, 591 
> Commentary on I 289-92 
> conjunction of, Moon, & Earth II 76, 435 
> connection w cross II 559 
> contains many unknown elements I 583 
> contraction & expansion of I 541-2 
> creation of, (Chald) II 145 
> creation of life by I 294 
> creation of seven new I 290 
> crocodile & II 577 
> deviated fr course, (Phaethon) II 535 
> divine spirit symb by fire or II 113 
> dragon symbol of II 380 
> eclipses of, & allegories II 380 
> eleven year cycle of I 541 &n 
> evolution of I 101-2 
> evolved fr primal matter I 625 
> explosion of, & planets I 500 
> eye of Odin or I 402 
> "eye of Osiris" II 25 
> Father II 462, 540 
> father of man II 105, 109 
> father of pneuma, human soul II 113 
> Father of the seven fathers I 575n 
> fed on "Mother's refuse & sweat" I 102 
> feminine to Semites once I 397 
> fire, air, &, three occult degrees of fire II 114 
> first race under II 29 
> -fluids awaken life, motion I 529 
> focus, lens of primordial light I 580 
> formation of, & stars I 595n, 602 
> generation, Moon & I 229 
> gives life to planets I 386; II 23 
> glowing, not burning I 149, 541, 591 
> gods called Archagetos II 463n 
> guardian of Jupiter I 493 
> has no nucleus (Williams) II 136n 
> has no polar compression I 593 
> heart of solar world I 540-2 
> heat of I 102, 149, 484n, 528, 591 
> highest god II 361, 538 
> incandescent, a fallacy I 149, 591 
> initiation of II 381 
> inner man drawn to Parent- I 639 
> jiva (soul) goes to I 132 
> Joshua stopped II 535 
> kama-rupa of akasa I 527n 
> Kant's theories on I 602 
> larger than Earth (1300 times) II 708 
> legend of Rahu & II 381 
> legend of Sanjna & II 174 
> as the Logos I 134n, 428 
> luminosity of, (science) I 528n 
> as a magnet I 497-9, 501 
> manas, kama-rupa fr II 241 
> Mercury & II 28 
> Mercury Messiah of II 541 
> Messiah, Christos II 23 
> Metcalf's caloric flows fr I 524 &n 
> millions of I 576n 
> Mithra, Iao & II 474 
> Moon &, affect man's body I 229 
> Moon &, cycles discussed II 620-1 
> Moon &, Son & Father I 229 
> Moon as eye of I 304-5 
> neither rises nor sets I 290n; II 155 
> not a planet but fixed star I 448 
> not cause of light, heat I 580 
> noumenon of electricity I 531 
> occult influence on seven planets I 575n 
> path of, called serpent II 356 
> perturbing influence on planets I 503 
> planets &, time measurers II 621 
> planets brothers not sons I 101, 449, 588-9 
> planets did not evolve fr I 101, 588-9 
> at pralaya I 370, 376; II 69n, 611 
> rebirth of northern, & Ankh II 547 
> reflect concealed primaries I 289 
> regulates manifested life II 595 
> revolves round Alcyone (Madler) I 501 
> rises & sets once a year, (Avesta) II 291 
> rising, setting of, (Vishnu Purana) II 155 
> rose in the south II 535 
> rotates w the planets I 100 &n 
> Sabasius, called II 419 
> self-moving, queried I 670 
> seven I 179 
> sevenfold I 290 &n 
> seven(fold) ray(s) I 290, 515 &n; II 25, 69n 
> seventh planet, ancients called I 99-100n 
> as seventh principle I 527n 
> in ship on back of crocodile I 409-10 
> solidity of, repudiated I 591 
> source of vital force I 531 
> spectroscope shows outer, only I 528 
> spectrum of I 143n, 528, 595-6 
> spheres of action of II 621 &n 
> spirit of fire resides in, (Kepler) I 493 
> spirit of light, life giver I 481 
> spirits oversee, (Kepler) I 499 
> spiritual, & avataras, saviors I 638 
> spiritual, enlivens kosmos II 23 
> spirit under the, (Zohar) II 553 
> substance of all I 289 
> substance of, immaterial I 499 
> substitute for sacred planet I 575 &n 
> surface described I 530, 531 
> swallow comets I 204 
> symbol became phallic II 584 
> symbolizes resurrection II 459 
> in Taurus (Druids, Magi) II 759 
> Thomson on age of I 501; II 10n, 258n 
> threatened younger brothers I 102 
> understanding II 639n 
> unknown rays in spectrum of I 143n 
> Uranus, Neptune, & I 575 
> various names for I 463; II 540 
> vehicle of a god I 479 
> Venus "the other" II 24, 31 
> Vishnu becomes II 38 
> visible, a maya or reflection I 179 
> vital electricity of, & man II 105 
> warmed sweat-born egg II 131 
> zodiacs & II 431
> Sun (Fourth World of Syrians), mightiest gods in I 435
> Sun-Abrasax, central spiritual sun II 214
> 
> 
> LIGHT FIRE HEAT COLD
> 
> absolute, is darkness I 69-70, 201, 337; II 95, 489 
> Adam Kadmon, Sephirah or I 337 
> adepts know every phase of I 516 
> Aditi or primordial II 107 
> aspect of universal motion I 147 
> "Boundless," of Gnostics I 577 
> called a god esoterically I 672 
> can be stored (Grove) I 508-9 
> chemical action of terrestrial I 597 
> comes fr darkness I 40-1; II 485-6, 488, 492 
> cosmic desire becomes absolute I 201 
> cosmic principle of II 41 
> creative II 233, 239 
> darkness & I 70, 450; II 162, 412-14 
> darkness &, eternal ways (Gita) I 86 
> differentiated, becomes Fohat I 216 
> discribed I 41, 70, 481-9, 579-80; II 37-40 
> drops ray into Mother I 64 
> electricity & I 508-9, 579-80 
> eternal, or Ptah II 553 
> fatal, of Levi II 512 
> Fire, Flame &, (Stanzas) I 81-2 &n 
> force, vibration I 483 
> generated in darkness II 492 
> in Genesis I 337, 356n, 450 
> God not, but cause of I 285 
> heat & I 2-3, 515n; II 130 
> infinite ocean of I 481 
> is cold flame I 82 
> of Logos, Christos I 216; II 38 
> Lords of Being & condensed II 33 
> minerals are, crystallized & immetallized II 169 
> mysteries focus of II 281 
> nature of, not understood I 493 
> not matter (Grove) I 484 
> noumenal, phenomenal I 145-6 
> Occult Catechism on I 120 
> physical, reflects divine I 259n 
> Pleroma vehicle of II 511 
> primeval, Amun as source of II 130 
> primordial, dual II 36-7 
> primordial, is seventh principle I 216 
> primordial, Mithras as II 130 
> primordial, or central sun I 344 
> produces no evil II 490 
> purely phenomenal effect I 146 
> science re I 530-1, 554, 591, 595, 597 
> secondary effect of other causes I 484 
> shadow &, exist eternally II 214 
> shineth in darkness I 70 
> sidereal, of Paracelsus I 255 
> sons of I 31, 106, 138-9, 196, 239, 481, 572, 575 
> spirit & matter I 481 
> spiritual, how men put out II 413 
> springs fr upadhi of ether I 515n 
> Sun not cause of I 580 
> svara &, (Subba Row) I 270n 
> swan symbol of I 357 
> three kinds of II 37-8 
> three sacred number of II 590 
> true source of I 621n 
> ultimate causes of, discussed I 514-17 
> 
> 
> FIRE HEAT COLD
> 
> See Agni, Elements, Fires, Heat, Parsis
> 
> active, male principle II 130 
> aether &, atma-buddhi I 216 
> aether in purest form I 87 
> Agni (Vedic) II 101, 114, 381, 413-14n 
> air, water, earth & I 284; II 114, 616 
> Al-Orit god of II 361 
> angels (kumaras) II 243 
> born of water I 379 
> burns away lower senses II 639 
> circles of II 103, 232, 275n 
> cold, luminous I 250 
> deity presiding over time I 86 
> destroyed some races II 307n, 309, 725-6 
> discovered by inventors II 373 
> dragon of wisdom fr water & I 470 
> essence of, & flame I 6 
> ethereal & terrestrial I 469 
> finds refuge in water I 402 
> first after the One I 216, 447 
> first manifest material I 250 
> flame of, endless I 85n 
> by friction explained in Vedas I 523 
> gandharva forces of solar I 523n 
> genii of, are Kabiri-Titans II 363 
> giving knowledge of future I 339 
> God is a living, (Acts) I 121 
> god of II 236n 
> gods discussed I 340-1 
> higher self in Anugita II 638 &n 
> Holy Ghost as, [Acts] I 402 
> hydrogen is "fire, air, & water" II 105 
> initiation trials of II 566n 
> is all the deities I 101; II 567 
> Isis & Osiris or water & II 583 
> kabbalistic works on I 339 
> Karttikeya born fr water & II 550 
> least understood of elements I 120-2 
> life, heart, pulse of universe I 216 
> light, flame &, in Stanzas I 81-2 &n 
> living magnetic I 338 &n; II 311n 
> living spiritual, & man II 79, 102 
> lotus product of, & water I 57, 379n 
> male generative principle I 57 
> marriage of, & water I 341 
> Melhas or, -gods II 34 
> Mithra, Mithras, & II 130 
> never discovered II 523-4 
> one element or I 101 
> origin of, (Plato) II 373 
> origin of, first round I 259 
> people born of water & I 439n; II 605 
> pillar of, (Exodus) I 338n, 437 
> primordial, not physical I 69-70 
> progeny of electricity I 81-2 
> Prometheus & II 520, 523-4 
> pure akasa I 253 
> pure spirit of, in Sun I 493 
> purifies manas II 639 
> pyramid derived fr II 594 
> related to sight, etc II 107 
> Rosicrucians defined, correctly I 121 
> Rudra god of II 280n 
> sacred II 77, 80, 101n, 171, 363, 759 
> St Mark, lion &, (table) II 114 
> science does not explain I 121, 141-2, 521 
> sevenfold, manifested I 87 
> solar II 105 
> sons of, (agni-putra) II 363 
> spirit of, fructifies I 379 
> spiritual II 79, 105, 109 
> suchi or solar II 57n, 102, 105 
> swallowed by air (pralaya) I 372-3 
> symbolizes divine spirit II 113 
> third race could live in II 220 
> thunder, Jove, Agni or I 462 
> triple, invisible I 87 
> triple, of central spiritual sun I 87 
> universe fr air, water & I 92 &n 
> Vaisvanara is living magnetic II 311n 
> various names of II 114 
> vital II 267 
> water &, or Mother & Father I 70 
> water &, produced matter II 65 
> worshipers II 361 
> Yazatas II 400n
> 
> 
> FIRE (OF MIND). 
> 
> See also Lucifer, Prometheus
> 
> -angels & divine rebels II 243, 246 
> black, of Zohar (wisdom) II 162 
> of the celestial gods II 210 
> creative II 101, 270, 414 
> first two races had no II 107, 113 
> higher self or II 109 
> holy, or Kabiri II 3 
> of passions II 99, 105 
> producer II 244 
> Promethean, became a curse II 412-13 
> Promethean, not physical II 523-4 
> -self or light of initiation II 570 
> seven circles of, (Pymander) II 103, 232, 275n, 448 
> spiritual, of middle principle II 79
> 
> 
> FIRE ATOMS. see LIFE-ATOMS
> 
> become life-germs I 259
> 
> Fire Devas, divine rebels II 246
> 
> Fire Dhyanis
> essence of man II 90-2 
> incarnate in third race II 91
> 
> Fire Mist. See also Pavaka
> arhats of the I 207 
> ball of, becomes planet II 153 
> breath of fire I 83 
> after chaotic stage I 453 
> "Devourers" & I 259 
> primitive chaos luminous I 599 
> primordial, & elements I 201, 543 
> sons of the I 86, 207, 271n; II 212, 319 
> various names for I 140
> 
> 
> (Courtesy of THEOSOPHICAL SOCIETY in PASADENA)
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> 
> What application in study would you make of your observation ?
> 
> How does the ancient literature and the correspondences and symbology of the
> Americas compare with the ancient Sanskrit records and Brahmin traditions ?
> 
> I see some similarities -- has any one worked on this ?
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> 
> Dallas
> 
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: christinaleestemaker
> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 5:30 AM
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> Subject: Re: VIRACHOCHA and INTI Venus = uppersun.
> 
> and Venus is behind our sun, the great livinggiving deity from which our sun
> get 1/3 of the venus radiance.
> 
> Christina.
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