Theos-Talk Archives (May 2006 Message tt00660)

Hallo Carlos you read it wrong, her father was the fifth internation 
president, not she.
Greetings Christina.






-- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline" 
<carlosaveline@...> wrote:
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> Dear Christina,
> 
> Thanks for the interesting note on Ms. Radha.
> 
> One small thing: she is the seventh (a strong number), not the 
fifth  Adyar TS International President.
> 
> The names are: 
> 
> 1) H.S. Olcott; 2) A. Besant; 3) C. Jinarajadasa; 4) G. Arundale; 
5) N. Sri Ram; 6), John Coats; 7) Radha Burnier. 
> 
> 
> Regards,  Carlos. 
> 
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> Cópia:
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> Data:Fri, 19 May 2006 11:25:19 -0000
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> Assunto:Theos-World President Radha Burnier since 1980 of TS .
> 
> > Maybe a peanut the year she started, but I feel to show a short 
> > writing about her career.
> > Radha is born in 1923 in Adyar, daughter of N.Shri Ram, the 
fifth 
> > International president of TS.
> > B.A and M.A in Sanscrit on Hindu University Benares.Became in 
1984 
> > honorary degree in literature of the Nagarjuna University.
> > She became member of TS in 1935, has been a lot of years 
president 
> > of loges for youngs and adults.
> > 
> > Also as librarian(1945-51) and secretary she worked a lot and as 
> > translator.
> > President of the federation Madras (1959-63)
> > 
> > Head of Kretona (USA) and The Manor of Australia.Since 1960 
member 
> > of the general council.
> > President of the Besant education fellowship and Olcott 
education 
> > sociëty.
> > 
> > Started New life for India movement(1968).
> > Since 1980 International president of TS.
> > Farther she was exponent of Classic Indian dances, with she fill 
a 
> > part in the film "The River"of Jean Renoir.
> > 
> > for the ones are interested for:
> > Greetings Christina
> > 
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> > 
> > -- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline" 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Dear Friends,
> > > 
> > > According to Daniel Caldwell's theory, SEE BELOW, Besant SD 
was 
> > authentic. 
> > > 
> > > But -- what is the reason, then, why both Boris de Zirkoff and 
> > the Adyar TS did not republish Besant's "Secret Doctrine", but 
> > dropped it, and adopted the original SD edition? 
> > > 
> > > Please consider that only very strong reasons could have made 
> > Adyar TS abandon the edition published by its long-standing 
> > President and ES Outer Head, A. Besant. 
> > > 
> > > It would not make sense to "drop" Besant's Third Volume-- 
> > politically a sensitive decision -- if it had any real 
legitimacy. 
> > > 
> > > It would have been a tremendou irresponsibility on the part of 
> > Boris, to abandon a "legitimate" SD edited by Besant/Mead. And 
we 
> > know he was a most skilled, ethical and responsible editor. 
> > > 
> > > I am thinking from the institutional viewpoint, in order not 
to 
> > have to discuss it paragraph-by-paragraph, since my time is 
limited. 
> > > 
> > > Has Besant's "wonderful job" (as Daniel seems to describe it) 
> > been a victim of some "conspiracy" orquestrated by N. Sri Ram, 
John 
> > Coats and Radha Burnier, the Adyar presidents since the 1960s ?? 
> > > 
> > > I do not think so. 
> > > 
> > > And, you see, Boris' work is universally considered reliable. 
> > Dara Eklund, being his long-standing and closest co-worker, can 
only 
> > support Boris' decision to abandon Besant's third volume and 
come 
> > back to the original edition of the SD. 
> > > 
> > > If people think Besant's 3rd volume is good, then this means a 
> > grave accusation against Boris and Adyar TS presidents. 
> > > 
> > > That accusation should be made frankly, openly, and in a 
> > responsible way. 
> > > 
> > > Now, we have plenty of examples of Adyar TS editorial 
> > irresponsibility in the area of Besant's influence. 
> > > 
> > > Boris, on the other hand, was not an Adyar TS member, I think, 
and 
> > was a serious, scrupulous, responsible editor. 
> > > 
> > > Best regards, Carlos. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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> > > Data:Thu, 18 May 2006 16:54:04 -0400
> > > 
> > > Assunto:Theos-World re deZirkoff 3rd vol SD
> > > 
> > > > Daniel -
> > > > 
> > > > yes I know this to be correct and Dara, Nicolas, Gomes, 
Richard 
> > Robb can
> > > > verify this I am sure. The content of the material that 
Besant 
> > collected
> > > > (though, I think in reality GRS Mead was the 3rd volume 
> > editor ?? I have no
> > > > reference at hand, but what do you think ?) was authentic 
> > material left by
> > > > HPB. One theory is that this was going to be re-worked into 
> > the 'real' 3rd
> > > > volume, but HPB never got to it. Another theory is that the 
> > elements of
> > > > the material for vol. 4 of SD is what we find in the 'Key' 
and ' 
> > Voice',
> > > > that is 'practical occultism'...... I realize that many 
points 
> > that I 'take
> > > > for granted' are apparently not well known. I think it is 
good 
> > that you
> > > > clarify these points so students know the facts and then can 
> > draw their own
> > > > conclusions from what really happened.
> > > > 
> > > > Ken
> > > > 
> > > > PS - did you receive my email ? I do not have your current 
one.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
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> > > > Data: Thu, 18 May 2006 14:56:39 -0000
> > > > Assunto: Theos-World Boris de Zirkoff used Annie Besant's 
Text
> > > > 
> > > > > It is a fact that can be shown and demonstrated (not just a
> > > > > speculation) that for a considerable portion of the HPB 
text in
> > > > > Collected Writings, Volume XIV, Boris de Zirkoff HAD TO 
pay 
> > attention
> > > > > to and actually USE Annie Besant's text from SD, Volume 
III, 
> > 1897 for
> > > > > the very simple reason that it [Besant's text] is the only 
> > extant
> > > > > text available.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anything said to the contrary is ignoring the real facts.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dara Eklund, Nicholas Weeks, Michael Gomes and other 
informed
> > > > > persons know the above to be true.
> > > > >
> > > > > Daniel
> > > > 
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