Theos-Talk Archives (May 2006 Message tt00662)

Christina,

I gave you all the names of the presidents and clarified Radha is the seventh. N. Sri Ram, her father, was  the 5th. 


Best regards,  Carlos. 




 Dear Christina,
 
 Thanks for the interesting note on Ms. Radha.
 
 One small thing: she is the seventh (a strong number), not the 
fifth Adyar TS International President.
 
 The names are: 

 1) H.S. Olcott; 2) A. Besant; 3) C. Jinarajadasa; 4) G. Arundale; 
5) N. Sri Ram; 6), John Coats; 7) Radha Burnier. 
 
 
 Regards, Carlos. 
 

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Data:Fri, 19 May 2006 12:53:01 -0000

Assunto:Theos-World Re: Radha Burnier TS President

> Hallo Carlos you read it wrong, her father was the fifth internation 
> president, not she.
> Greetings Christina.
> 
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> -- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline" 
> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Christina,
> > 
> > Thanks for the interesting note on Ms. Radha.
> > 
> > One small thing: she is the seventh (a strong number), not the 
> fifth Adyar TS International President.
> > 
> > The names are: 
> > 
> > 1) H.S. Olcott; 2) A. Besant; 3) C. Jinarajadasa; 4) G. Arundale; 
> 5) N. Sri Ram; 6), John Coats; 7) Radha Burnier. 
> > 
> > 
> > Regards, Carlos. 
> > 
> > 
> > De:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
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> > Para:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
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> > Cópia:
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> > Data:Fri, 19 May 2006 11:25:19 -0000
> > 
> > Assunto:Theos-World President Radha Burnier since 1980 of TS .
> > 
> > > Maybe a peanut the year she started, but I feel to show a short 
> > > writing about her career.
> > > Radha is born in 1923 in Adyar, daughter of N.Shri Ram, the 
> fifth 
> > > International president of TS.
> > > B.A and M.A in Sanscrit on Hindu University Benares.Became in 
> 1984 
> > > honorary degree in literature of the Nagarjuna University.
> > > She became member of TS in 1935, has been a lot of years 
> president 
> > > of loges for youngs and adults.
> > > 
> > > Also as librarian(1945-51) and secretary she worked a lot and as 
> > > translator.
> > > President of the federation Madras (1959-63)
> > > 
> > > Head of Kretona (USA) and The Manor of Australia.Since 1960 
> member 
> > > of the general council.
> > > President of the Besant education fellowship and Olcott 
> education 
> > > sociëty.
> > > 
> > > Started New life for India movement(1968).
> > > Since 1980 International president of TS.
> > > Farther she was exponent of Classic Indian dances, with she fill 
> a 
> > > part in the film "The River"of Jean Renoir.
> > > 
> > > for the ones are interested for:
> > > Greetings Christina
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> > > 
> > > -- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline" 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Dear Friends,
> > > > 
> > > > According to Daniel Caldwell's theory, SEE BELOW, Besant SD 
> was 
> > > authentic. 
> > > > 
> > > > But -- what is the reason, then, why both Boris de Zirkoff and 
> > > the Adyar TS did not republish Besant's "Secret Doctrine", but 
> > > dropped it, and adopted the original SD edition? 
> > > > 
> > > > Please consider that only very strong reasons could have made 
> > > Adyar TS abandon the edition published by its long-standing 
> > > President and ES Outer Head, A. Besant. 
> > > > 
> > > > It would not make sense to "drop" Besant's Third Volume-- 
> > > politically a sensitive decision -- if it had any real 
> legitimacy. 
> > > > 
> > > > It would have been a tremendou irresponsibility on the part of 
> > > Boris, to abandon a "legitimate" SD edited by Besant/Mead. And 
> we 
> > > know he was a most skilled, ethical and responsible editor. 
> > > > 
> > > > I am thinking from the institutional viewpoint, in order not 
> to 
> > > have to discuss it paragraph-by-paragraph, since my time is 
> limited. 
> > > > 
> > > > Has Besant's "wonderful job" (as Daniel seems to describe it) 
> > > been a victim of some "conspiracy" orquestrated by N. Sri Ram, 
> John 
> > > Coats and Radha Burnier, the Adyar presidents since the 1960s ?? 
> > > > 
> > > > I do not think so. 
> > > > 
> > > > And, you see, Boris' work is universally considered reliable. 
> > > Dara Eklund, being his long-standing and closest co-worker, can 
> only 
> > > support Boris' decision to abandon Besant's third volume and 
> come 
> > > back to the original edition of the SD. 
> > > > 
> > > > If people think Besant's 3rd volume is good, then this means a 
> > > grave accusation against Boris and Adyar TS presidents. 
> > > > 
> > > > That accusation should be made frankly, openly, and in a 
> > > responsible way. 
> > > > 
> > > > Now, we have plenty of examples of Adyar TS editorial 
> > > irresponsibility in the area of Besant's influence. 
> > > > 
> > > > Boris, on the other hand, was not an Adyar TS member, I think, 
> and 
> > > was a serious, scrupulous, responsible editor. 
> > > > 
> > > > Best regards, Carlos. 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
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> > > > Data:Thu, 18 May 2006 16:54:04 -0400
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> > > > Assunto:Theos-World re deZirkoff 3rd vol SD
> > > > 
> > > > > Daniel -
> > > > > 
> > > > > yes I know this to be correct and Dara, Nicolas, Gomes, 
> Richard 
> > > Robb can
> > > > > verify this I am sure. The content of the material that 
> Besant 
> > > collected
> > > > > (though, I think in reality GRS Mead was the 3rd volume 
> > > editor ?? I have no
> > > > > reference at hand, but what do you think ?) was authentic 
> > > material left by
> > > > > HPB. One theory is that this was going to be re-worked into 
> > > the 'real' 3rd
> > > > > volume, but HPB never got to it. Another theory is that the 
> > > elements of
> > > > > the material for vol. 4 of SD is what we find in the 'Key' 
> and ' 
> > > Voice',
> > > > > that is 'practical occultism'...... I realize that many 
> points 
> > > that I 'take
> > > > > for granted' are apparently not well known. I think it is 
> good 
> > > that you
> > > > > clarify these points so students know the facts and then can 
> > > draw their own
> > > > > conclusions from what really happened.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Ken
> > > > > 
> > > > > PS - did you receive my email ? I do not have your current 
> one.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > De: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
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> > > > > Cópia:
> > > > > Data: Thu, 18 May 2006 14:56:39 -0000
> > > > > Assunto: Theos-World Boris de Zirkoff used Annie Besant's 
> Text
> > > > > 
> > > > > > It is a fact that can be shown and demonstrated (not just a
> > > > > > speculation) that for a considerable portion of the HPB 
> text in
> > > > > > Collected Writings, Volume XIV, Boris de Zirkoff HAD TO 
> pay 
> > > attention
> > > > > > to and actually USE Annie Besant's text from SD, Volume 
> III, 
> > > 1897 for
> > > > > > the very simple reason that it [Besant's text] is the only 
> > > extant
> > > > > > text available.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anything said to the contrary is ignoring the real facts.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dara Eklund, Nicholas Weeks, Michael Gomes and other 
> informed
> > > > > > persons know the above to be true.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Daniel
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
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