Theos-Talk Archives (May 2006 Message tt00640)

Friends, 

We can always  change the words.

Let's say -- Annie Besant's "Secret Doctrine" has "ceased to be sold, ceased to be bought, and therefore ceased to be read". 

Best regards, Carlos




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Data:Thu, 18 May 2006 00:26:16 -0700 (PDT)

Assunto:Re: Theos-World Daniel: Besant's SD Abandoned

> I wonder if TS Adyar has abandoned the 3rd vol. of
> Besant's SD. The 6 volume edition of Adyar is not
> reprinted in recent years. The 3 volumed edition
> brought out in 1979 1nd 1988 is a reprint of the
> fascimile edition. Is this enough proff to say the
> volume is 'abandoned'?
> --- carlosaveline wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Daniel,
> > 
> > OK. Thanks.
> > 
> > Adyar TS, Boris de Zirkoff, and most theosophists
> > agree: Besant's third volume is, as a whole, not
> > legitimate and therefore Adyar abandoned it,
> > adopting Zirkoff's edition. 
> > 
> > Boris published texts which ALSO were in the
> > Besant's 3rd volume. But he got to their originals,
> > probably. He did not depend on Besant's edition. He
> > had access to Adyar's Archives. He did not have
> > tocopy from Besant's false edition. 
> > 
> > I hope this is clear now. 
> > 
> > Regards, Carlos. 
> > 
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> > Data:Tue, 16 May 2006 16:15:15 -0000
> > 
> > Assunto:Theos-World Quote on Socrates : Your point
> > is?
> > 
> > > Carlos,
> > > 
> > > In your posting at:
> > > 
> > >
> >
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theos-talk/message/33473
> > > 
> > > you wrote:
> > > 
> > > "So what? Your point is? Nobody said A. Besant's
> > SD is entirely 
> > > false."
> > > 
> > > Well, there are some students of Blavatsky who
> > ENTIRELY reject 
> > > this Third Volume and who will NOT use any
> > material from the 
> > > volume since they believe Mrs. Besant mutilated
> > the text. 
> > > 
> > > As one student once said to me, how do you know
> > what is HPB's and 
> > > what Mrs. Besant added, changed or deleted from
> > HPB's text.
> > > 
> > > So Carlos I'm glad that you apparently do not
> > accept this extreme 
> > > view and you see worth in the HPB material in this
> > third volume.
> > > 
> > > This is one of my points.
> > > 
> > > Now to another point.
> > > 
> > > In my previous posting on this subject, I quoted
> > the publisher's 
> > > note from the Theosophy Company that said that the
> > Third Volume of 
> > > the SD that was published in 1897 "forms no part
> > of the original 
> > > SECRET DOCTRINE written by H.P.B."
> > > 
> > > Notice the words: NO PART
> > > 
> > > Now I ask: how does the writer of this statement
> > know this? 
> > > Unfortunately, the writer does not give us any
> > details whatsoever so 
> > > we are not in a position to understand the
> > reasoning or the evidence 
> > > that may have led him to that conclusion.
> > > 
> > > But focusing on NO PART, I would like to take the
> > "part" that you 
> > > quote, that is, the HPB quote on Socrates, look at
> > that part and see 
> > > if we can determine if that material was actually
> > "A PART of the 
> > > original SECRET DOCTRINE written by H.P.B."
> > > 
> > > I will do this in my next posting.
> > > 
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