Theos-Talk Archives (May 2006 Message tt00636)

Daniel, Friends, 

Yes, I see your painstaking investigation on the origin of a paragraph.

As we all know, people can spend their whole lives speculating on editorial origins of paragraphs, or they can study Theosophy, which is linked to the 
contemplation of Universal Truths and, therefore, to Jnana Yoga.

Something related to Raja Yoga, by the way. 

Since you do not question the authenticity of HPB's paragraph quoted by me, and since we all know Adyar abandoned Besant's "Secrert Doctrine", so what's the problem? 

I thank you for your long investigation/discussion  on the  source of my correct quotation, which makes a point in terms of classical philosophers.  

Regards,  Carlos. 



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Data:Wed, 17 May 2006 18:31:43 -0000

Assunto:Theos-World The basic question is what text did de Zirkoff DEPEND on?

> Carlos,
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> You write:
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> Whatever long-winded speculations about this and that particular 
> paragraph having being transcribed from here or there, the facts 
> remain:
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> 1) Zirkoff is reliable;
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> 2) I quoted from Zirkoff;
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> 3) Third Volume, A. Besant's SD is not reliable, and was abandoned 
> even by Adyar -- now you please imagine what about the rest of the 
> movement! So, why insist with historical rubbish? No one reads 
> AB's Secret Doctrine, as long as I know.
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> Yes Carlos I know that you quoted from de Zirkoff, that is you 
> quoted from CW, Vol. XIV.
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> But the question is: 
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> For the specific text about Julian and Socrates, on what source or 
> version did Mr. de Zirkoff DEPEND for HIS transcription and version?
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> PLEASE NOTE:
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> There are ONLY two sources still extant: the 1886 text and the 1897 
> text that Mr. de Zirkoff could use.
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> See the 3 colored columns for the specific text at:
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> http://blavatskyarchives.com/3comparisonssocrates.htm
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> I ask you Carlos and any other interested readers:
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> Compare the 3rd column (purple text – de Zirkoff version) with BOTH 
> the 2nd column text (green text – Besant version) AND the 1st column 
> text (yellow text –Wurzburg) version.
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> Which version Besant or Wurzburg did de Zirkoff rely on? 
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> Which version green or yellow did de Zirkoff use?
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> And Carlos, when you write:
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> Daniel is the Last Mohican of Besant's "Secret Doctrine". See below.
> No one else, that I know, pays attention to that piece of museum.
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> But the basic question was NOT what text I would pay attention to, 
> it was what text did Mr. de Zirkoff PAY ATTENTION TO and also USE 
> in HIS version of Julian and Socrates as found in CW, Vol. XIV?
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> It is a fact that can be shown and demonstrated (not just a 
> speculation) that for a considerable part of the HPB text in 
> Collected Writings, Volume XIV, Mr. de Zirkoff HAD TO pay attention 
> to and actually USE Besant's text ("piece of museum") for the very 
> simple reason that it is the only extant text available!!
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