Theos-Talk Archives (May 2006 Message tt00631)

Daniel,

Whatever long-winded speculations about this and that particular paragraph having being transcribed from here or there, the facts remain:

1) Zirkoff is reliable; 

2) I quoted from Zirkoff; 

3) Third Volume, A.  Besant's SD is not reliable,  and was abandoned even by Adyar --  now you please imagine what about the rest of the movement! So,  why insist with historical rubbish?  No one reads AB's Secret Doctrine, as long as I know. 

Best regards,  Carlos. 
 
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Data:Wed, 17 May 2006 15:28:10 -0000

Assunto:Theos-World Carlos writes: "Zirkoff Didn't Need Besant's SD"

> Carlos,
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> You write to me:
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> In the "Collected Writings" , Boris published texts which 
> ALSO were in the Besant's 3rd volume. 
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> But most likely he got them from their originals. 
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> He did not depend on Besant's edition. 
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> He had access to Adyar's Archives. He did not have to copy from 
> Besant's false edition. 
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> I hope this is clear now. 
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> Carlos, unfortunately, some of what you write above is
> simply not factual and accurate and therefore is not "clear."
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> Boris de Zirkoff did DEPEND on Besant's edition; he
> did COPY from what you call "Besant's false edition."
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> If you don't believe me, ask Dara Eklund and Nicholas Weeks.
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> Yes, he ALSO had access to the 1886 Wurzburg manuscript of
> the SD BUT much of the text in Volume XIV of the CW is simply
> copied straight out of what you call "Besant's false edition."
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> You can start to verify this for yourself by simply taking the HPB 
> quote on Socrates that you took from Boris de Zirkoff's Volume XIV 
> and COMPARE it to the same quote in Besant's Volume III. And then
> look at my transcription of this quote from the Wurzburg manuscript
> as given at the very end of the posting at:
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> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theos-talk/message/33495
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> If you don't believe me, then also compare Jinarajadasa's 
> transcription on page 144 of THE THEOSOPHIST, Nov. 1933.
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> Thank you for bringing this issue up because the confusion certainly 
> needs to be cleared up.
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> In my Part 4 to be posted on Theos-Talk, I will RETURN to my thesis 
> about this article "What the Occultists and Kabalists Have to Say" 
> in which the quote about Socrates occurs.
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> Daniel
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