Theos-Talk Archives (May 2006 Message tt00600)

Cass,

We are not talking about "importance". Why should we? We are talking about facts. 

It is a fact that, according to HPB,  Socrates of Athens was  NOT initiated in to the physical organization of Mysteries, had a direct, inner link with legitimate sources of inspirations.  

This is but an example of the process of affiliation being one thing, though useful; and direct inspiration being another thing, quite different. 

Why should we not be ABLE TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE between initiation in the sense of mere affiliation (which Socrates did NOT  have) and other forms of inspiration?  It is not that difficult.

Regards,  Carlos. 



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Data:Mon, 15 May 2006 19:28:43 -0700 (PDT)

Assunto:Re: Theos-World TO CASS ON SOCRATES' DAIMON

> Why is it so important to you that Socrates was initiated into the mysteries?
> Cass
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> carlosaveline wrote: Dear Cass,
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> Socrates, a great inspiration for J. J. Rousseau and so many thinkers in all time (starting with Plato!) well deserves our attention. 
> Please take a kind look below. Carlos. 
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> NOTE ON THE CHARACTER AND 
> SUBSTANCE OF SOCRATES' DAIMON
> Carlos Cardoso Aveline 
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> H. P. Blavatsky writes in "Isis Unveiled", in a most clear way:
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> �The daemonium of Socrates was his nous [in Greek in the original], mind, spirit, or understanding of the divine in it. �The nous [in Greek in the original] of Socrates�, says Plutarch, �was pure and mixed itself with the body no more than necessity required.... (...) The part that is plunged into the body is called soul. But the incorruptible part is called the nous and the vulgar think it is within them, as they likewise imagine the image from a glass [ that is, a mirror ] to be in that glass. But the more intelligent, who know it to be without, call it a Daemon� (a god, a Spirit).� (1) 
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> And in the �Mahatma Letters�, this statement is confirmed. Writing about the seventh and sixth principles of human consciousness, which form one�s Monad or higher self, an Adept-Teachers explains:
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> �Neither Atma or Buddhi ever were within man, a little metaphisical axiom that you can study with advantage in Plutarch and Anaxagoras. The latter made his [ Greek words for �nous� ] the spirit self-potent, the nous that alone recognized noumena whhile the former taught on the authority of Plato and Pythagoras that the semomnius or this nous always remained without the body; that it floated and overshadowed so to say the extreme part of the man�s head, it is only the vulgar who think it is within them.� (2)
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> In the Christian tradition, the aureoles above the heads of Saints, in their portraits, are unconscious references to this fact. (3) 
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> So Socrates� Daimon was his own higher self, Monad, Atma-Buddhi. 
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> (1) �Isis Unveiled�, H. P. Blavatsky, T.U.P., Pasadena, CA, USA, 1988, Volume II, 284-285. 
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> (2) �The Mahatma Letters to A. P. Sinnett�, T.U.P., Letter CXXVII, p. 455 (Letter 72 in the chronological edition, TPH, Philippines). 
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> (3) About the aureoles, see �Mahatma Letters�, T.U.P., Letter XXIII-B, item 9. (Letter 93-B, chronological edition). 
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