Theos-Talk Archives (May 2006 Message tt00583)

Daniel,

Perhaps I am taking things too far, but I think in this refreshing new
era for theos-talk, it would be prudent to stay away from living
personalities.  If you are implying that you have a problem with
Katinka's motives in light of KH's comments, I suspect there are more
suitable forums in which to post them.  I prefer to say nothing and to
stick to understanding the great wealth that is Theosophy.  I am sure
that we can debate theosophy without dragging poor Katinka into the
fray.

Bruce
--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "danielhcaldwell"
<danielhcaldwell@...> wrote:
>
> Bruce,
>
> Thanks for your comments.
>
> I see that you are contemplating what KH says in relationship to
> what the Coulombs did.
>
> But although we may gain some insights by doing so, my
> initial thoughts were about how we might see Katinka's
> opinion in relationship to what KH wrote about.
>
> I assume you are NOT lumping Katinka in the same category
> with the Coulombs.
>
> Daniel
> http://hpb.cc
>
>
>
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "robert_b_macd"
> robert.b.macdonald@ wrote:
> >
> > Daniel points to some wise words here from which we could all
> learn a
> > little.
> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "danielhcaldwell"
> > <danielhcaldwell@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Would the following by K.H. apply to Katinka's opinion
> > > which has been apparently used AGAINST her here at Theos-Talk
> > > in several previous posts????
> > >
> > > I ask this not to create "discord" here but to get some readers
> > > pondering on what seems to me some very important issues that
> > > apparently are not carefully considered from time to time in
> some of
> > > the Theos-Talk postings.
> > >
> > > Koot Hoomi writes:
> > > ===============================================================
> > > ...Every Western Theosophist should learn
> > > and remember, especially those of them who would be our
> followers --
> > > that in our Brotherhood, all personalities sink into one idea --
> > > abstract right and absolute practical justice for all. And that,
> > > though we may not say with the Christians, "return good for
> evil" --
> > > we repeat with Confucius -- "return good for good; for evil --
> > > JUSTICE." Thus, the Theosophists of Mrs. K.'s way of thinking, --
> > > were they even to oppose some of us personally to the bitter
> end, --
> > > are entitled to as much respect and consideration (so long as
> they
> > > are sincere) from us and their fellow-members of opposite views,
> as
> > > those who are ready with Mr. Sinnett to follow absolutely but our
> > > special teaching. A dutiful regard for these rules in life will
> > > always promote the best interests of all concerned....
> > > =================================================================
> > > http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/mahatma/ml-85.htm
> > >
> > This quote brings forward the ideas of "sincerity" and the respect
> that
> > the Master's demonstrate for potential enemies to the Brotherhood's
> > teachings.  Nowhere do the Masters deviate from a postion of
> Universal
> > Brotherhood with respect to students with contrary views, nowhere
> does
> > the debate sink into concern over motives.  Theosophists concerned
> with
> > "abstract right and practical justice for all" will, no doubt,
> want to
> > stay away from personal motive as this can only debase a debate.
> For
> > example, when the Coulombs accused HPB of fraud, there was no
> interest
> > in seeking Truth, only an interest in establishing doubt concerning
> > HPB's motives and integrity.  The Coulomb's, unable to argue
> > intelligently against HPB's presentation of the Wisdom Tradition,
> > attempted to cause her harm by levying empty accusations that to my
> > knoweldge have never been proven nor has anyone attempted to prove
> them.
> > They can hardly be described as  "sincere" holders of opposite
> views.
> > "Justice" certainly dictates that their "evil" accusations be met
> with
> > opposition by fair-minded men.  "Ingratitude is not among our
> vices, nor
> > do we imagine you would wish to advise it. . . ."
> >
> > Bruce
> >
>