Theos-Talk Archives (May 2006 Message tt00401)

Christina,

The problem with the sudden enlightenment Zen is that enlightenment can be sudden -- but you must quietly practice the way quite a few lives,  before you get to it....

So the way can be said to be long....

Minor insights can be attained more easily, though, can't they? 

Carlos.  




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Data:Thu, 11 May 2006 19:07:38 -0000

Assunto:Theos-World Re: Christina, Vairagya & Viveka

> -Carlos. I think it is a long way to Sâdhanâchatushtaya
> 
> greetings Christina.
> 
> 
> -- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline" 
> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Christina,
> > 
> > Thanks. Real nice to talk to you.
> > 
> > Life taught me people do not have to have any bad intentions to 
> make absurdities and injustices. In fact, bad intentions are really 
> rare facts.
> > 
> > Yet good intentions without Vairagya -- and therefore with scarce 
> Viveka -- 
> > are most common. 
> > 
> > But people improve and learn. 
> > 
> > Best regards, Carlos. 
> > 
> > 
> > De:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
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> > Para:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
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> > Cópia:
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> > Data:Thu, 11 May 2006 18:53:12 -0000
> > 
> > Assunto:Theos-World Re: To Christina on Katinka
> > 
> > > Carlos. on that net of her she have English as well as Dutch 
> > > literature published.
> > > But I can say I never follow her, because she is not in my 
> interest.
> > > greetings Christina.
> > > 
> > > 
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> > > 
> > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline" 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > Christina, 
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks for the info. 
> > > > 
> > > > I will look for Katinka in the future, if I have the time and 
> > > think it worthwhile. 
> > > > 
> > > > So far, I would welcome her presence here. 
> > > > 
> > > > I guess you are absolutely right about people who, as you 
> > > say, "take the power (authority) to them with all kind of 
> nonsense". 
> > > > 
> > > > As to me, I am reasonably interested in what goes one in the 
> > > movement and enjoy practising some English, while exchanging 
> views 
> > > with friends. 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Best regards, Carlos. 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > De:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
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> > > > Data:Thu, 11 May 2006 18:35:49 -0000
> > > > 
> > > > Assunto:Theos-World Re: To Christina on the Funny Letter
> > > > 
> > > > > Hi Carlos;
> > > > > There are a lot of persons in TS , who pretented to be 
> > > theosophist, 
> > > > > but they only are philosophs.
> > > > > It is up to us to make discernments.
> > > > > 
> > > > > By the way, she is a young woman(teacher out of work) who 
> have 
> > > her 
> > > > > own group at yahoo under the names:
> > > > > groups.yahaoo.com/group/theosophie-groep and
> > > > > groups.yahoo.com/group/hermes
> > > > > and maybe a lot more and she also have her own work or 
> changed 
> > > work 
> > > > > of TS under www. katinkahesselink.net/
> > > > > 
> > > > > There you can contact here and ask for her vieuw.
> > > > > 
> > > > > But I can say I never be interested of vieuws of others, I 
> > > search 
> > > > > for the first hand knowledge and not from others who take 
> the 
> > > power 
> > > > > (authority) to them with all kind of nonsense.
> > > > > 
> > > > > greetings Christina.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline" 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Christina, 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I wish Katinka were here to explain her views. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I am not at home now, so I do not have the letter 
> verbatim. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > It is a letter recently published in FOHAT in which, 
> repeating 
> > > > > Paul Johnson and Daniel Caldwell, Katinka suggests HPB faked 
> > > > > phenomena. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Now, Paul Johnson and Daniel Caldwell have several things 
> in 
> > > > > common, one of them being they both admit they are NOT 
> > > theosophists.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Katinka and Algeo say they are theosophists. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Regards, Carlos. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > De:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Para:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
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> > > > > > Data:Thu, 11 May 2006 18:17:44 -0000
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Assunto:Theos-World Re: Katinka's Letter Good for Laughing
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Carlos; -Now you make me awake
> > > > > > > About what letter it was going?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I know a lot of certain TS persons are as manipulative 
> as 
> > > what, 
> > > > > so 
> > > > > > > what letter brings unfair information?
> > > > > > > Greetings Christina.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
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> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > -- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline" 
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Chuck,
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > You say Katinka's letter must be good. It was.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Good for laughing. And false, too. 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Regards, Carlos. 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > De:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
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> > > > > > > > Data:Thu, 11 May 2006 13:15:09 EDT
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Assunto:Re: Theos-World Carlos brings up Katinka
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
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> > > Standard 
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> > > > > > > > > danielhcaldwell@ writes:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > What has she written that puts her
> > > > > > > > > in the same category as Algeo, Johnson and Caldwell??
> > > > > > > > > 
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> > > > > > > > > It must have been good, whatever it was.
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