Theos-Talk Archives (May 2006 Message tt00248)

Daniel,


Thanks for your questions.

Yet I have to confess that all of them have been answered already since February, here at Theos-talk.

Regards,  Carlos. 
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Data:Mon, 08 May 2006 19:20:38 -0000

Assunto:Theos-World Trying to Understand Carlos' Use of the word "slanderer"

> Trying to Understand Carlos' Use of the word "slanderer"
> 
> Carlos, 
> 
> You comment: 
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> So if Daniel, Katinka, Algeo, P. Johnson and others want to look 
> like scholars, they must first of all examine their sources, then 
> admit that V. Soloviof, Eleanor Sidgwick and Alexis/Emma Coulombs 
> are all liars, and finally start to stick to facts. Three good 
> examples these people could follow are Leslie Price, Michael Gomes 
> and Ernest Pelletier -- who have different positions/opinions, but 
> all respect facts and examine their own sources. 
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theos-talk/message/32948 
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> Carlos, you also say quite emphatically:
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> Why should anyone except a slanderer consider Soloviof a legitimate 
> source of historical information? But -- why using Soloviof as a 
> source if you are not a slanderer? 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theos-talk/message/32946 
> ========================================================== 
> 
> Carlos, let me try now to understand your position here.
> 
> Are you actually saying that if a writer uses any material from 
> Soloviof's book as "a legitimate source of historical information", 
> then you would consider him or her as a "slanderer"?
> 
> Let me try to give a specific example or two, so that there is no 
> room for misunderstanding your position as given in the above two 
> quotations of yours.
> 
> Since you mention me in the first quote above, let us suppose, I 
> have written an article or maybe even a chapter for a possible book 
> on HPB and Theosophy and in the course of my narrative, I write:
> 
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> In the latter part of 1877, H.P.B. told others that she was planning 
> to go to the East. She wrote to a Russian correspondent Mr. Aksakov:
> 
> "We have now a multitude of corresponding fellows in India, and are 
> proposing next year to set off for Ceylon and to settle there, as 
> headquarters of our society." (A Modern Priestess of Isis, p. 277.)
> 
> ==================================================
> 
> Now here I believe I would be --- by your own definition --- 
> using Soloviof's book as "a legitimate source of historical 
> information." 
> 
> Right?
> 
> Would you therefore say that I am a "slanderer"?
> 
> And furthermore if I don't mention to the reader that this is a 
> possibly forged letter or in fact a forged letter, that is, not an 
> authentic letter of H.P.B., would I then be compounding the "crime" 
> even more???
> 
> Again, would you say that I am a "slanderer"?
> 
> Or let us suppose that in my essay or book I wrote:
> 
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> H.P.B. writes about her first book ISIS UNVEILED as follows:
> 
> "Well, my book has appeared at last. My darling was born last 
> Saturday, September 29th, but a week ealier my publisher had sent 
> pre-publication copies to the editors of all the papers. I am 
> enclosing herewith the review in the New York Herald...." (letter 
> by H.P.B. to N.A. Aksakov from V.S. Solovyov's A Modern Priestess of 
> Isis (London, 1895).
> 
> ==================================================
> 
> Am I a "slanderer", Carlos, by YOUR OWN definition by using 
> Soloviof's book in this example as "a legitimate source of 
> historical information."?
> 
> I am trying to understand your reasoning here and I hope these two 
> examples may help to clarify the points that you are trying to 
> convey to readers on Theos-Talk.
> 
> Daniel
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